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1000 pt - Limited Model Selection
Topic Started: 8th March 2012 - 12:23 AM (508 Views)
Nurglitch IX
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11th March 2012 - 02:38 AM
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10th March 2012 - 10:38 AM
Hmmm th iob warlord blatantly has no shield though.
And the halberd he's carrying can't be considered a second hand weapon nor could he carry a hand weapon with the halberd so already he's breaking WYSIWYG. In short the rule only applies to rank and file troops.
OK, I've spent 2 days digging, and I can't find a single reference to WYSIWYG in the BRB. Does anyone have an actual page reference for it?
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Egggggggssssssss!!!!!!!
I could be wrong but I don't think there's actual rules for it. I've picked it up on forums and playing games. Personally I'm not a big fan of it since I like swapping things around every once in a while. That and Slaves with spears look awesome.
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Page 88 under weapons.
"it is acceptable for a unit to include a number of models that are differently armed for the sake of an interesting and varied appearance, but the unit still counts as being armed as the majority. Where models are varied in this way, it is important that the overall appearance of the unit is not misleading.

So not a definite statement of WYSIWYG. But if it's a tournament I guess you have to stick with their rules. I've always played WYSIWYG for rank and file but I never bother for characters. A magic halbard counts as a hand weapon according to the magic item rules, so that's how I'd play it.
My suggestion is that for a tournament you always check with the organiser first though. It would be a disaster to have a model disallowed on the day.
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12th March 2012 - 10:26 PM
A magic halbard counts as a hand weapon according to the magic item rules, so that's how I'd play it.
"...Unless otherwise stated."

and "A magical weapon cannot be used alongside an additional hand weapon to gain an extra attack."

And

"A magical weapon cannot be used along side a shield to gain a parry save."

So a magical halberd would be a halberd is all respects just as the Soulrender from the Dark Elves magic list is still a great weapon. The IoB character still breaks the WYSIWYG rule. It just looks cool.

Plus the rules on page 88 (thanks for that) only refer to rank and file and not characters thus making them exempt from the rule.
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I'm looking for Dark Eldar to convert into DE. Also looking for bretonnia lances and halberds. If anyone has any they would be interested in trading PM me and we can work something out.


"And, most vivid of all, there was the dramatic epic of the rats––the scampering army of obscene vermin which had burst forth from the castle three months after the tragedy that doomed it to desertion––the lean, filthy, ravenous army which had swept all before it and devoured fowl, cats, dogs, hogs, sheep and even two hapless human beings before its fury was spent. Around that unforgettable rodent army a whole separate cycle of myths revolves, for it scattered among the village homes and brought curses and horrors in its train."

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12th March 2012 - 11:39 PM
"A magical weapon cannot be used alongside an additional hand weapon to gain an extra attack."
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"A magical weapon cannot be used along side a shield to gain a parry save."

So a magical halberd would be a halberd is all respects just as the Soulrender from the Dark Elves magic list is still a great weapon. The IoB character still breaks the WYSIWYG rule. It just looks cool.

Plus the rules on page 88 (thanks for that) only refer to rank and file and not characters thus making them exempt from the rule.
I've always pointed out that the rules say you can't USE them, not that you can't HAVE them.

Page 88 refers to all units, and points out that Character is unit type not discussed in that section.
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240 Grey Seer - GENERAL
72 . Champion - bsb, shield
45 . Leroy the Warplock Engineer - Doom Rocket
180 23 Clanrats - shields, musician, std bearer (bunker)
. . . . Plague Wind Mortar
72 . 35 Slaves - musician
72 . 35 Slaves - musician
227 26 Plauge Monks - Musician, std bearer [ Plauge Banner ]
90 . Warp Lightning Cannon
998.5 Total

SO here is the final list. Tourney is in 5 hours, 2 games. Camera charging so I can get some shots for the battle report. Will link it here when I post it. Wish me luck.
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Egggggggssssssss!!!!!!!
Nice list. Good luck.
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I'm looking for Dark Eldar to convert into DE. Also looking for bretonnia lances and halberds. If anyone has any they would be interested in trading PM me and we can work something out.


"And, most vivid of all, there was the dramatic epic of the rats––the scampering army of obscene vermin which had burst forth from the castle three months after the tragedy that doomed it to desertion––the lean, filthy, ravenous army which had swept all before it and devoured fowl, cats, dogs, hogs, sheep and even two hapless human beings before its fury was spent. Around that unforgettable rodent army a whole separate cycle of myths revolves, for it scattered among the village homes and brought curses and horrors in its train."

– The Rats In The Walls, H.P. Lovecraft
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kill em all watch out for high T things or high armour as that seems to be your weakest area solid list though.
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Sleepai dooggy :)
Hope you do u well and would love to see a battle report.

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Well that was heart-rendingly horrible. He brought Dark Elves: Corsairs, Warriors, ColdOne Knights, Harpies, and a Sorcerer Supreme, and in Turn 4 I had a 5 Monk unit and my Bunker with BSB and Grey Seer to his 5 Cold one Knights. (600 point win!) End of turn 6 it was 1 Cold one Knight vs. 18 Clanrats with no leaders, I lost by over 100 points to A SINGLE FRAKING MODEL!!! and to make it worse, I killed all 5 Monks (with Vermintide) and the Seer (with Miscast) for him. I should have just played Hide and Go seek for two rounds!

See the full report here Tarmee makes a friend

And help with next weeks list here: 1250 pts, Limited Model Selection
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