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Topic Started: 1st March 2012 - 11:16 AM (2,052 Views)
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3rd March 2012 - 05:37 PM
I live in Southern California, so theres like oh 5 stores each within a 30 minute drive including the L.A. battle bunker. I'll give the Battle Bunker its props, its a huge store with like 20 gaming tables, plus they like divide the store into a gaming room and the actual store. Haha the guys in the gaming area are really nice, but I often got hassled by the guys in the store. For example, back in the Nemesis Crown Campaign I went for a 1000 point battle and they suddenly changed the battle to 2000 point an hour before the game. I then of course told the manager I couldnt play because of a lack of models, he then proceeded to get me a 1000 points from their show case models, random customers in the store and did everything possible so I could play! (Yay him) Then when I left the guys in the store area legitimately asked if I wanted to buy all those models in box form... lol
ONly 20 tables at the battle Bunker? I thought it was huge?

The two FLGS I play at have 4 playing tables (and 6 more Card tables) and 8 playing tables. The big stores when i want to commute have 8 at the smaller one, and 43 at the bigger one. The difference between 8 at FLGS and 8 at big store is the FLGS has tables and 8 feet of gondola and I tend to rub against thr next table when I'm playing. Teh big store has 8 tables that are comfortable, on the second story, with a full store with 2 rooms of specialty stuff on the ground level.

When I played in San Diego the store I liked to go to had 6-8 tables as well.
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I once pulled out an Ultraforge Plague Daemon in the GW Bristol store, none of the staff said anything but there was a lot of talking out of the sides of mouths ^_^

Personally now if I need anything I go to a LGS, 10% off the prices and I'd like the place to stay open, it has set up around 20 tables to play on with awesome scenery, when the GW has 3 tables and all are learn to play tables <_< and full of screaming kids :unsure: they don't often try to push sales on me as they know they'll be in for a sarcastic response but the LGS don't push at all.

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GW Den Haag surprised me a while ago... I went there to pick up presents with Kimzi's brother a while back and they actually offered good, relevant advice to her brother (DE player), including tips on how to save money while building his army o.O told us we could come in and play whenever we liked and we shouldn't feel obligated to buy anything. Although this could just be because of the fact that the 3 people in the store other than us 3 were GW staffers, one of whom was apparently in on his time off. They seemed rather lonely.

It was, I must admit, very strange. I had become rather tense until they spent 5 minutes trying to sell me a pot of glue at the end of our visit, at which point I relaxed and all was back to normal. Apparently a DE Hydra, box of CoK, a doomwheel and a bunch o' paints weren't enough :P that one pot of glue MUST BE SOLD! Funnily enough we did need glue, but we picked that up on the way home at a model train shop for half the price and over twice the amount. And it even had a decent applicator.


Edit: I think I'd be likely to verbally abuse anyone who tried to make me buy 2000 points for an in-store competition though, no matter how nice they were XD that's just going too far.
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4th March 2012 - 10:22 AM

It was, I must admit, very strange. I had become rather tense until they spent 5 minutes trying to sell me a pot of glue at the end of our visit, at which point I relaxed and all was back to normal. Apparently a DE Hydra, box of CoK, a doomwheel and a bunch o' paints weren't enough :P that one pot of glue MUST BE SOLD! Funnily enough we did need glue, but we picked that up on the way home at a model train shop for half the price and over twice the amount. And it even had a decent applicator.
It's something they MUST say.

If you go in buy glue and they'll have to ask you if you need glue.

Same as Dressman stores and socks, or was in underwear. You even get that for free if they do not ask you if you need it. Goes out of the salary of the salesperson.
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Oh aye, but he didn't just ask if we needed glue. He spent a full five minutes marketing this glue and trying, desperately, to sell it. He spent more time advertising that glue than he did trying to get us to buy anything else. Like the world would end if we didn't buy that glue... not such a bad thing, but I found it amusing :P
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GW glue. LOL. They should be arrested for breaching the trading-standards-act. Dreams and fairy-wishes bond plastic better than GW glue. Seriously, their Poly Cement is dire, it just doesn't glue!
I thought the main property of a glue was to be gluey not expensive.
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5 minutes of listening to 'its the best glue ever, it has a new formula!' really makes me wish we could arrest them for it :P

Especially considering that the 'epic new formula' was seemingly just 'watering it down'...
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4th March 2012 - 12:37 PM
GW glue. LOL. They should be arrested for breaching the trading-standards-act. Dreams and fairy-wishes bond plastic better than GW glue. Seriously, their Poly Cement is dire, it just doesn't glue!
I thought the main property of a glue was to be gluey not expensive.
But then that would be assuming GW have our best interests in their fluffy hearts, rather than finding any excuse to increase prices / new ways to water down glue so you need to use more ergo buy more.

hypothetical announcement "Games Workshop Group plc today announces 50% price increases on all products across all ranges, this includes its Forge World and Black Library brands. The announcement comes after the controversial news yesterday that Games Workshop will be offering monthly sacrifices of wide eyed puppies and kittens to appease the dice gods, Games Workshop declined to comment and the dice gods were unavailable for comment. The share price of Games Workshop (GAWL) has not been affected."

**edit** spelling :blush:
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there's nothing we can do about it, as soon as a company is quoted on the stock exchange it starts to dillute glue with water

that's what the stock exchange does ...

it's not games workshop we should be after here, it's the bigger picture!
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I sacrifice to the dice gods all the time and the only time I roll double 6 is on leadership tests.
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speaking of stock exchange, check this article out: it's very well written!

http://www.anime-alberta.org/main/2010/01/now-for-something-different-games-workshop-stock/
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That was a nice little rant in that link. He likens GW fans to abused wives who return again and again to their husbands but from the tone of the article he seems like he is very bitter that he gave up on GW and nobody else followed suit.
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4th March 2012 - 02:09 PM
That was a nice little rant in that link. He likens GW fans to abused wives who return again and again to their husbands but from the tone of the article he seems like he is very bitter that he gave up on GW and nobody else followed suit.
Aye the wife beater part was fun :)

i like the style of the rant more then what it contains, i think many people DID give up on GW (i dont think HE has cause he mentions painting a dark elf at the end?) it's just that instead of having 10 people with 2000 point armies you have 5 people with unpainted over-priced 4000 point MEGA FORCES.

in the long run it will fail ... it has to ... otherwise we WILL have to give up

what do you think?
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Their marketing strategy seems unsustainable. They aren't fostering loyalty and love for the hobby like they used to. They make everything bigger and more expensive and encourage you to drop whatever you are doing and run with the latest fad. "Put those beastmen down because everyone loves Tomb Kings now derp".

Apocalypse and the Forge World titans are an example of this. Biggest, most cynical pile of crap ever. 3000 point armies are huge so telling people they need 10000 point armies on 8 FOOT gaming tables is beyond belief. I'm surprised they sold a single copy of the expansion. Seriously, to paint an apocalypse army must take SO long you would have to neglect work, family and yourself and to store one I'd need a new house.
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4th March 2012 - 03:47 PM
Their marketing strategy seems unsustainable. They aren't fostering loyalty and love for the hobby like they used to. They make everything bigger and more expensive and encourage you to drop whatever you are doing and run with the latest fad. "Put those beastmen down because everyone loves Tomb Kings now derp".

Apocalypse and the Forge World titans are an example of this. Biggest, most cynical pile of crap ever. 3000 point armies are huge so telling people they need 10000 point armies on 8 FOOT gaming tables is beyond belief. I'm surprised they sold a single copy of the expansion. Seriously, to paint an apocalypse army must take SO long you would have to neglect work, family and yourself and to store one I'd need a new house.
3k is the minimum Apocalypse army. I teamed up with another Chaos player and we fielded 7,5k of models. Not ALL painted mind. But we *have* the models already. Seriously, quite a few people have waaay larger collections than they could normally field. The Ork player could plonk down a foot slogger army, Speed Fraks and an IG mechanized company (of Orky vehicles) alone.
8 feet is only 2 feet more than the standard table, indeed many tables are already 8x4.

For the record. The big stuff came first. Apocalypse more or less is a response to demand for a game where FW models could be used.
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