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After purchasing an item at my local GW,
The staff then went on to tell me about this months challenge!
Buy and build a 2000 point army.... more like hand over $500?

thought it was pretty funny
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Lol wow, that's just insane.
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LOL! How daft do they think we are? I would have said buy it for me and I'll compete.
I'm surprised the challenge wasn't to buy, paint and build a 10,000 point Apocalypse army. Oh sorry that's April's challenge.
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1st March 2012 - 11:42 AM
LOL! How daft do they think we are? I would have said buy it for me and I'll compete.
I'm surprised the challenge wasn't to buy, paint and build a 10,000 point Apocalypse army. Oh sorry that's April's challenge.
daft indeed ^^

funny how we're always falling back on the same subject =P
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1st March 2012 - 11:16 AM
After purchasing an item at my local GW,
The staff then went on to tell me about this months challenge!
Buy and build a 2000 point army.... more like hand over $500?

thought it was pretty funny
Is there a prize for this challenge? I know there's a similar one happening at my FLGS for 40K, Buy a Batallion Box and an HQ, paint and play in the tourney. First Prize is like $250 in store credit though.
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The bread that satisfies all hunger... the peanut that reverses time...
In-store credit.... Ha!
That deal translates as "Buy lots of my stuff and if you win a tournament against loads of other people who bought lots of my stuff I'll give you some crumbs off my plate." :P
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1st March 2012 - 05:09 PM
In-store credit.... Ha!
That deal translates as "Buy lots of my stuff and if you win a tournament against loads of other people who bought lots of my stuff I'll give you some crumbs off my plate." :P
I tend to prefer in-store credit to "some GW stuff" because I can use to for whatever. I don't think I've ever seen a tourney that paid in cash.

And let's be fair: If we spent 100-200 dollars in this store to win the prize, odds are good that we'll drop another 200+ there in the next 6 months. I don't even want to think about how much of my disposable income winds up in the local shops pocket over the course of a year.
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Tell me about it. I used to be into buying fashionable clothes until I got back into the hobby. Now I couldn't give a monkey's-fart what I wear now. All my cash goes on family first then little, plastic men second.
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I'm tempted to get a weekend job at my local GW just to get 50% off, but then I would have to deal with all the people... don't get me wrong I love humanity, I just can't stand people. :P
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ugh

Those guys are the worst. I guess that sales pitch stuff works with kids and their parents but it's so off putting to anyone who has benn playing the game for more than a couple of years.

When the Rat Ogre box set came out I remember a GW staff guy trying to get me to buy it. I told him I thought the price was a bit unfair compared with the six ogre bulls in a box. The guy was ready to argue to the death that it was equal. Just silly.
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They don't try that crap with me. If I say something is overpriced that's final.
I hate the teenage staffers making a bee-line for me as soon as I walk in and proceed to follow me around the shop telling me about the hobby I've been doing since I was 11 even though I never asked. Telling me how to paint my models even though I never asked and which colours I "need" even though I never asked and what armies I should buy etc. etc. And all the while my body language and facial expression is oozing contempt. It's like they automatically assume I am a noob because I don't spend my life in there.

It also narks me when I see them borderline-bullying a young kids bemused mother into buying Assault On Black Reach, loads of paints, a tactical squad, a land raider etc. "Oh you need this and this and you simply can't buy this without this because that's your HQ choice and these need those for the upgrade and blah, blah, blah." It does more harm than good because it puts the parents off from going back in. My Dad hated going to GW with me when I was a kid because of the staff. He's a bad tempered bugger too.
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Its really weird because there are about two stores equal distance from me, i use to go to a different one.
The staff where so friendly and never tried to convince you to buy every new product, and would only talk to you about
it if you actually showed interest.
I dont think i'll go to the city one anymore, i went in to ask what skaven warlord option they had and it took about 3 minutes
before they where trying to convince me to buy a battleboard, terrain and dont forget the holy grail (white dwarf). Everyone
has had their rant about that book, but my biggest things is why the hell should i pay $12 a month to see advertisement.
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I dont understand where things go wrong ...

I've never met ANYONE who likes that type of a salesman, and yet they INSIST on hiring these type of people and try to BREAK you into acting like that to be a "good salesperson" ???

I just dont get it

I think we should all go to a Games Workshop store at rush hour and as soon as they try to sell you some stuff speak very loudly "FUNNY I THINK I SAW THAT ON EBAY FOR HALF THE PRICE" or "MANTIC'S KINGS OF WAR RANGE WOULD WORK JUST AS WELL AND I COULD STILL TAKE THE WIFE TO DINNER"
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Just a show of hands; has anyone here actually worked as a salesperson anywhere?

I have, and I know the reason these guys do what they do isn't necessarily because they want to, it's because they have to. They need to be competitive to keep their jobs.
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They don't try that crap with me. If I say something is overpriced that's final.
I hate the teenage staffers making a bee-line for me as soon as I walk in and proceed to follow me around the shop telling me about the hobby I've been doing since I was 11 even though I never asked. Telling me how to paint my models even though I never asked and which colours I "need" even though I never asked and what armies I should buy etc. etc. And all the while my body language and facial expression is oozing contempt. It's like they automatically assume I am a noob because I don't spend my life in there.

It also narks me when I see them borderline-bullying a young kids bemused mother into buying Assault On Black Reach, loads of paints, a tactical squad, a land raider etc. "Oh you need this and this and you simply can't buy this without this because that's your HQ choice and these need those for the upgrade and blah, blah, blah." It does more harm than good because it puts the parents off from going back in. My Dad hated going to GW with me when I was a kid because of the staff. He's a bad tempered bugger too.


Thats sounds like my typical day.

which really makes me wounder if GW salesmen are paid off of commission like I am (based on how you describe it they must be)

and if thats the case... I feel kinda man in the middle about this.

On the one hand, In my job (and trust me I'm a young teenage kid too) I'm pressed to make daily and weekly goals in sales that if I don't make I can get written up, suspended, or even fired for. We work on commission ONLY (no hourly pay so "sell sell sell") any returns and we actually LOSE the commission on said items (I'm both for and against this, On the one hand It prevents you from just selling the high paying items and actually get the customer something they want. On the other it sucks when said items may have defects that cause returns that are NOT my fault as a salesperson [I'm not allowed to open every computer and turn it on to make sure it works right before I sell it to you, I get fired for that])

So in a nutshell, Most of my day consists of staying the hell away from the sale ticket items (aka, cables, accessories other than bags, Macs) and in the high paying section (pc laptops and desktops) and whenever I see a customer looking even the SLIGHTEST bit interested in a product I basically either jump on him/her or stalk them until they need to get something (should they be tech savy)

Now as for them pushing things that you don't need (aka this kid needs a whole 2000 point 40k army right at the start, [highly untrue, you need the starter kit and some paints, then work SLOWLY from there]) I try not to. It SUCKS to give people things that I TRULY know they DON'T need and sometimes don't even WANT. But if I don't sell these items I get heat for it.

basically, my good moral has got me:

1: more customers return to find me because I get them what they need not what pays me
2: less returns because I get people what they need rather than trying to upscale them into a product that pays me more.
3: less hurt from the few returns (On average I lose maybe 1-2$ commission everyday from faulty products, once I lost a 5$ from a monitor, that was still pretty low.) as compared to the other sales 20 and 30 dollar hits.
4: I make basically very little money. sad truth

so in conclusion, While I may not agree with what they push and how they sell (I can't stand people who lie to sell either, pisses me off, the guy did get like 200$ in returns though, serves him right) I can at least sympathies that they gotta bring the bread home too. and pushing items is sadly really how it ends up being.
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