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| Thawzz13 | 13th February 2012 - 09:24 AM Post #1 |
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Sleepai dooggy
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Right basically this thread is for all those lists that are ridiculously cheesy, unfair and should only ever be played once or twice or to counter equally bad lists or against friends occasionally. Essentially post your list (ideally between 2000-3000pts) and some tactics to go with it. To set the ball rolling, and being far from a great list writer, here is my attempt. lords Grey seer, screaming bell, earthing rod, 5x warptokens 540pts Heroes BSB, shield, stormbanner 122pts plague priest, furnace, dispel scroll, flail 279pts WLE, domrocket 45pts core 39 clanrats, shields, musc, standerd, warpthrower 257.5 49 slaves,musc 98pts 50 slaves, musc 102pts 50 slaves, musc 102pts 50 slaves, musc 102pts special 35 plague monks , musc,standerd, plague banner 290pts rare HPA 235 HPA 235 WLC90 Total 2499.5 the idea for this list is that the HPA's take a flank each and the plague monks take the center with slaves inbetween while the bell advances up behind and holds the army together with the 18" LD. ideas and improvements on this list welcome and please post you own killer lists. |
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| Matt Seer | 13th February 2012 - 12:13 PM Post #2 |
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Clanrat
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2396 pts hope you like! lord: 540 Grey seer, screaming bell, earthing rod, 5x warptokens 540pts Hero: 122 BSB, shield, stormbanner 122pts Rare: 535 Hell Pit + Spikes 235pts Doomwheel 150pts Doomwheel 150pts Core: 983 45 x slaves + musician + shields 114.5pts 45 x slaves + musician + shields 114.5pts 40 x clan rats + full + spears & shield + mortar 285pts 40 x storm vermin + full + Flame banner + mortar 377pts 4 x rat darts 92pts *yes i know this is not towards core :)* Special: 216 6 x Gutter runners , poison + slings = 108 6 x Gutter runners , poison + slings = 108 Edited by Matt Seer, 13th February 2012 - 12:14 PM.
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| Mathusala0 | 13th February 2012 - 02:08 PM Post #3 |
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The Evil Underlord
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@ Thawzz, any list with 2 hellpits becomes very cheesy, with talking soft cheddar instead of guda @matt sear, Castle formation @ topic Castle formation for cheese |
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| Matt Seer | 13th February 2012 - 03:26 PM Post #4 |
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Clanrat
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: D cheese! whats the limit on unit sizes? could you have 200 slaves , spears and shields @ 602 pts ? Anyone tried this? Edited by Matt Seer, 13th February 2012 - 03:26 PM.
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| Flem | 13th February 2012 - 03:59 PM Post #5 |
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A blood curling cough a day, keeps the assassins away
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@ Math: while the castle formation is indeed a cheesy list there might be some other cheese out there we can field. We can make a rather cheesy shooting army aswell for instance. We have lots of templates at our disposal and can simply tarpit units and keep firing at them without them coming closer. I mean in 2K points you can field 2 doomwheels, 2 cannons and a catapult as rare choices alone. You can fit 3 mortars in without any difficulty (especially if you put one on globadiers) and Slaves are cheap as hell. Personally i think there are two kinds of cheese, the no brainer kind and the kind where you actually need to think. For instance it doesn't take a genius in order to just smash 2 hellpits into a unit and wipe it. Flem, |
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| Thawzz13 | 13th February 2012 - 05:53 PM Post #6 |
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Sleepai dooggy
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any spell like dwelers plague purple sun etc that affects the whole unit would completely wreck it |
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| Scarr, Reincarnated | 13th February 2012 - 06:12 PM Post #7 |
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11th creator of the Skaven Achievements. Binder of IceAc.
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I don't see the point in 200 Slaves in one unit. In four units... maybe. I still think that is too much though. Cheese is roquefort lists comprised of cheddar and Eidar cheese. Should do well. |
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| Nurglitch IX | 14th February 2012 - 06:04 PM Post #8 |
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No, that's your CHEEZE factor. 2000 points Lord Naked Grey Seer Hero Chieftain BSB - 70 Core 200 Slaves 200 Slaves 200 Slaves 200 Slaves 45 Slaves (for a bunker) The odds he gets a Unit Killer off 4 times in a row: Low. Odds he can deal 200 wounds in 6 rounds: low. Odds you've painted 845 slaves just to turtle your opponent into conceeding? Priceless. |
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| Mathusala0 | 14th February 2012 - 11:34 PM Post #9 |
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The Evil Underlord
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They wont fit in a deployment zone +death magic |
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| Nurglitch IX | 14th February 2012 - 11:57 PM Post #10 |
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smallest deployment area is Spearhead (IIRC) which is ~5 sq ft., or 720 sq inches. 20mm bases are .62 sq inches, so you should be able to fit about 1100 in a deployment zone, so long as they're 1 single unit. 847 with 1 inch coushins should fit 'easily'. MUTATE: you can fit 30 slaves or clan rats in a 2 ft section. /MUTATE Still, you are a little right, because as I was thinking on this, it'd be better to have 4 Blocks: 20x10 10x10 10x20 10x10-2 then line them up with the smallest group as a bunker right on the corner of the table. The 10x20 and the 20x10 'above' and 'inside' so that you'd need to go through them to reach the bunker, but so that they're out of exploding slave radius. Then place the 10x10 in the interesection of the 2, so that you can't side flank into the big groups. This group will be in explode range, but it's a needed evil to keep them from trying to slice into the 'SUPER BUNKER' on teh diagonal. Edited by Nurglitch IX, 14th February 2012 - 11:59 PM.
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