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When you really want to win...; Those lists that you should never try
Topic Started: 13th February 2012 - 09:24 AM (479 Views)
Thawzz13
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Sleepai dooggy :)
Right basically this thread is for all those lists that are ridiculously cheesy, unfair and should only ever be played once or twice or to counter equally bad lists or against friends occasionally.

Essentially post your list (ideally between 2000-3000pts) and some tactics to go with it.

To set the ball rolling, and being far from a great list writer, here is my attempt.

lords

Grey seer, screaming bell, earthing rod, 5x warptokens 540pts

Heroes

BSB, shield, stormbanner 122pts

plague priest, furnace, dispel scroll, flail 279pts

WLE, domrocket 45pts

core

39 clanrats, shields, musc, standerd, warpthrower 257.5

49 slaves,musc 98pts

50 slaves, musc 102pts

50 slaves, musc 102pts

50 slaves, musc 102pts

special

35 plague monks , musc,standerd, plague banner 290pts

rare

HPA 235

HPA 235

WLC90

Total 2499.5

the idea for this list is that the HPA's take a flank each and the plague monks take the center with slaves inbetween while the bell advances up behind and holds the army together with the 18" LD. ideas and improvements on this list welcome and please post you own killer lists.

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Matt Seer
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hope you like!

lord: 540

Grey seer, screaming bell, earthing rod, 5x warptokens 540pts

Hero: 122

BSB, shield, stormbanner 122pts

Rare: 535

Hell Pit + Spikes 235pts
Doomwheel 150pts
Doomwheel 150pts

Core: 983

45 x slaves + musician + shields 114.5pts
45 x slaves + musician + shields 114.5pts
40 x clan rats + full + spears & shield + mortar 285pts
40 x storm vermin + full + Flame banner + mortar 377pts
4 x rat darts 92pts *yes i know this is not towards core :)*

Special: 216

6 x Gutter runners , poison + slings = 108
6 x Gutter runners , poison + slings = 108







Edited by Matt Seer, 13th February 2012 - 12:14 PM.
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Mathusala0
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@ Thawzz,

any list with 2 hellpits becomes very cheesy, with talking soft cheddar instead of guda

@matt sear,

Castle formation

@ topic

Castle formation for cheese
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Matt Seer
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: D cheese!

whats the limit on unit sizes?

could you have 200 slaves , spears and shields @ 602 pts ?

Anyone tried this?

Edited by Matt Seer, 13th February 2012 - 03:26 PM.
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@ Math: while the castle formation is indeed a cheesy list there might be some other cheese out there we can field. We can make a rather cheesy shooting army aswell for instance. We have lots of templates at our disposal and can simply tarpit units and keep firing at them without them coming closer. I mean in 2K points you can field 2 doomwheels, 2 cannons and a catapult as rare choices alone. You can fit 3 mortars in without any difficulty (especially if you put one on globadiers) and Slaves are cheap as hell.

Personally i think there are two kinds of cheese, the no brainer kind and the kind where you actually need to think. For instance it doesn't take a genius in order to just smash 2 hellpits into a unit and wipe it.

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Matt Seer
13th February 2012 - 03:26 PM
: D cheese!

whats the limit on unit sizes?

could you have 200 slaves , spears and shields @ 602 pts ?

Anyone tried this?

any spell like dwelers plague purple sun etc that affects the whole unit would completely wreck it

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I don't see the point in 200 Slaves in one unit. In four units... maybe. I still think that is too much though.

Cheese is roquefort lists comprised of cheddar and Eidar cheese. Should do well.
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13th February 2012 - 06:12 PM
I don't see the point in 200 Slaves in one unit. In four units... maybe. I still think that is too much though.

Cheese is roquefort lists comprised of cheddar and Eidar cheese. Should do well.
No, that's your CHEEZE factor.

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Hero
Chieftain BSB - 70
Core
200 Slaves
200 Slaves
200 Slaves
200 Slaves
45 Slaves (for a bunker)

The odds he gets a Unit Killer off 4 times in a row: Low. Odds he can deal 200 wounds in 6 rounds: low.

Odds you've painted 845 slaves just to turtle your opponent into conceeding? Priceless.
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They wont fit in a deployment zone +death magic
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Mathusala0
14th February 2012 - 11:34 PM
They wont fit in a deployment zone +death magic
smallest deployment area is Spearhead (IIRC) which is ~5 sq ft., or 720 sq inches. 20mm bases are .62 sq inches, so you should be able to fit about 1100 in a deployment zone, so long as they're 1 single unit. 847 with 1 inch coushins should fit 'easily'.

MUTATE: you can fit 30 slaves or clan rats in a 2 ft section. /MUTATE

Still, you are a little right, because as I was thinking on this, it'd be better to have 4 Blocks:

20x10
10x10
10x20
10x10-2
then line them up with the smallest group as a bunker right on the corner of the table. The 10x20 and the 20x10 'above' and 'inside' so that you'd need to go through them to reach the bunker, but so that they're out of exploding slave radius. Then place the 10x10 in the interesection of the 2, so that you can't side flank into the big groups. This group will be in explode range, but it's a needed evil to keep them from trying to slice into the 'SUPER BUNKER' on teh diagonal.
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