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| FoeofNight | 30th January 2012 - 09:28 AM Post #1 |
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First stab at a plague themed list... Would like to know what you all think and what you would change and improve. Lord Skrolk 470 Plague Priest 319 Lvl 2 Wizard Plague Furnace Shadow Magnet Flail Plague Priest 289 Lvl 2 Wizard Plague Furnace Flail Rat Dart 23 Rat Dart 23 Rat Dart 23 SkavenSlaves x40 82 Musician SkavenSlaves x40 82 Musician SkavenSlavesx40 82 Musician Plague Monks x35 300 Bringer-of-the-word Musician Standard Bearer Plague Banner Plague Monks x35 320 Bringer-of-the-word Musician Standard Bearer Storm Banner Plague Censer x9 144 Plague Censer x9 144 PlagueClaw Catapult 100 PlagueClaw Catapult 100 2501 Thoughts? |
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| Scarr, Reincarnated | 30th January 2012 - 09:42 AM Post #2 |
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I like it sort of. It has many Slaves and the Characters should fix problems with Monsters with Bless with Filth and such. I would say that having one Level 3 and two Level 2 wizards choosing from the same lore is a bit overkill however, especially seeing that Pestilent Breath isn't even very good. Spare some points from dropping some Levels on the Plague Priests. Use the extra points for and Ironcurse Icon and a BSB. Really why not. |
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| Rakchew | 30th January 2012 - 03:26 PM Post #3 |
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Totally awesome, just dont play anything with Cannons as they will have 600 points in the 2nd turn. (assuming the cannons hit the furnaces and do 3 wounds a turn) I might have to bring something similar against my Ogre buddy, maybe 2 cannons instead of two PCC though just to ensure I nuke that IronBlaster and Mournfang. Edit* Just saw the Stormbanner..that will help. = ) Edited by Rakchew, 30th January 2012 - 03:31 PM.
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| Solegga | 30th January 2012 - 03:44 PM Post #4 |
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Not having a BSB in skaven-need-to-stay-steadfast list is very risky imo.... also, I'll agree with the points spent on the priests... |
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| Danny1985 | 30th January 2012 - 03:54 PM Post #5 |
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I agree on the bsb... Your monks might be unbreakable while furnace is there.. but when it gets down... Also it makes your slaves sweeter. When you go with the bsb i think you should give the bsb the storm banner.. and give your monks banner of the under empire. Or if u have troubles crossing the battlefield fast enough.. try the banner of verminous scurrying. dont know how the plague censer bearers are doing.. some say they rock.. but more people say that they become worthless. I havent played with them so IŽll not take a side on that matter. (But im curious on how they do )Hope youŽll let us know how your list does when u played with it ![]() |
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| Scarr, Reincarnated | 30th January 2012 - 04:18 PM Post #6 |
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11th creator of the Skaven Achievements. Binder of IceAc.
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The +1 Movement banner is perfect for a Furnace. Much-many better than Banner of Verminous Scurrying, because it works in round one and on the charge. It makes them able to get in on turn 2 nearly all the time. I am not sure if he can get the Storm Banner in with the Furnaces when it comes to Hero allowance. |
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| Rakchew | 30th January 2012 - 04:47 PM Post #7 |
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Totally, BSB all the way. If only to ensure the slaves stick around until those units of Plague Monks tear some flanks up. Censers will decimate a flank of I3 (preferably lower) or GW wielding opponents. The can also be used to get redirectors/flyers/fast cav out of the way. I might drop them down to 7 strong in my list since 1 supporting attack from them is kinda crap, but the higher number does kinda ensure they get to see some combat. I might drop them and add a huge unit of Plague Ogres!!! Then again, if you were going for FULL Pestilens then this is certainly the list to do it. |
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| Mathusala0 | 31st January 2012 - 01:53 AM Post #8 |
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drop some of the wizard levels, invest in bigger censor units, if your going to take them go big or home, and by big, i mean 30 |
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| Flem | 31st January 2012 - 02:10 AM Post #9 |
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A blood curling cough a day, keeps the assassins away
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Actually i believe smaller units of censers still work 5-7. Unlike in 7th edition they are no longer a combat hammer and they have become a lot more vunerable to magic (not to mention the 360° line os sight lose). But they still have some advantages, for instance being stubborn within 12 inch of a furnace. for example: 5 censers joined by a naked engineer go in congo line straight infront of a unit. If there is no char or other way the unit has more then one I value they'll only be able to attack your engineer meaning your censers will live and get to use their stubborn. Granted the engineer needs to take a T-test which he fails on a 4+ but he has 2 wounds and is actually cheaper then a censer bearer model so who cares. They are more manouverable then slaves because of their skirmish movement, and can hold their ground which giant rats don't. But the general consensus on censers for combat use seems to be don't go below 15 models in one unit. Flem, |
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| Brother Bart | 1st February 2012 - 09:46 AM Post #10 |
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I regularly use a Pestilens themed list, though not quite as purist as the list you posted. I tend to go Magic light, which ends up hurting me some of the time. I agree with the posts above, get a BSB in there. My two most regular opponents play Dwarfs and Empire respectively, and both take 3 WMs on average, and at least one of them (more often two) are cannons. I can't count the number of times my Furnace has fallen by turn 2 (One shots are the worst, I HATE cannon wound rolls of 6!) Also, cannon shots were recently FAQed to clarify that both the furnace/bell AND the priest/seer are hit. Having said that, remember that only clan Pestilens characters can join units of Plague Monks...so BSB Chieftain will have to either hoof is alone, or join up with a slave unit....which makes them loose their 'insignificant' rule preventing you from dropping Plague Claw Catapult shots on units engaged with them...My catapults usually do horrible (our misfire chart is so much worse than the standard stone thrower one), but I killed 7 empire knights in one shot last week...that nearly made up for ALL those misfires and scattered shots I usually get .For this reason, I usually take only one Large Monk unit (with Plague Banner as a staple) with a Lvl 2 Priest on a furnace. Then I take two units of Clan Rats, one for the BSB, and the other for either a Warlord (if I want that extra LD point) or another Priest. Two big blocks of slaves, and maybe a unit of 6 to 7 PCBs. I don't leave home without my Abomb either...but recently he has disgraced me more than my PCCs. He has only ever reached my Dwarf opponents lines once. Flaming cannons tend to ruin his day (Storm banner doesn't stop them form firing either). Then 2 weeks ago, he's wrecking shop on a Vargulf, when he gets charged by a large unit of zombies which cause him to loose combat from static CR...and I proceed to roll box cars, TWICE IN A ROW. I rolled low to flee and my 'untouched' ABomb gets run down by Zombies! Then last week, I rolled low on my movement to skirt around a unit of Flagellants, only to get flank charged the next turn, take 8 wounds, and fail 6! regen saves....bye bye Abomb. sigh. I've had mixed results taking a couple of the Plague Wind Mortars (hey, they sorta fit the theme) but usually I just go with what I described above. Good luck! Edited by Brother Bart, 1st February 2012 - 09:48 AM.
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| Couchmonster | 9th February 2012 - 04:11 PM Post #11 |
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I to am an avid fan of the Pestilens list & believe that you may have misread the bit about characters joining Pestilens Units. This restriction only applies to Pestilens units that contain a Plague Furnace. So any monk unit without can be joined by a chieftan freely. |
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