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Hexwraiths more broken than I first thought; Am I right?
Topic Started: 20th January 2012 - 03:18 PM (2,709 Views)
SkavenDan
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They are fast cav but it is still hard to do.

I just had my first VC game with the new book results where skryre 1259 loses VC 1489 loses.

Skryre for the win!
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Stalarious
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Well that sounds like it was a close match congrats I wish I could get a VC player to try out this tactic and tell us how it went so we could get some tabletop exp about it.
I would do it but my VC are packed up.
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Honestly it doesn't sound like such a hot move and not locking yourself in combat means that people are free to fire and magic you. Better of getting 10 of these in the flank or using them for killing war machines but they are pricey.

I can do a break down of are game if your interested in what happened.
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Yea no doubt how did it go(it will be hard to cheer either side on because they are my top 2 favorite armies.)
The beastmen charge from the woods the skaven from the ground. Men scream with nowhere to go it s a good day.
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Well to summarize the game don't take too many characters he did 4 wizards sounds cool but never enough power dice and I blasted the 2 of the corpse cart on turn 1 lol.

Skellies are annoying.
Vampires just ignore them and kill the unit and they crumble.
Let them get spells through don't let them summon that was the key part I took some hammer but in general it didn't matter I was stopping the units getting super sized.
Those flying frenzied troops are nasty as hell 6 charged in a unit of 30 clanrats and in 2 turns killed them and run them down.
The ghoul monster thingies are annoying but nothing to worry about.
The Bat swarms give you always strikes last which really was annoying they fly in and cause a hellish amount of wounds 3-6 of these on your flank is bad news.
The etheral units didn't do anything really came at me with units behind them so I landed the cannon on them and then bounced into the units behind.

He also tried some combos I just laughted at -1ld eteranl fear rubbish no re-rolling your fear tests and a take your test on 3d6.
The only unit that failed a fear test all game was a unit of jezzails lol.

In the end the seers bell unit flanked the generals unit and finished them of.

On T5 I had his units down to like 5-10 men. If I had 13th spell he would been dead as he had a vampire hero & wraith & necromancer all in 1 unit. That would have swung it to a big skaven win.
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wait the leadership modifiers only apply to fear tests? not break tests?

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Well vampires suck now
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Dunno I wasn't losing combat so it was only fear tests I was taking. Always winning by 1-2 points even with slaves.
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24th January 2012 - 11:25 PM

Well vampires suck now
I thought that has always been their thing :D

I haven't gotten to face the new VC yet since all of the VC players at my LGS are finishing their new models before playing again. On paper they look like they are gonna be as powerful as the other 8th books.
skavenmatt,Sep 11 2010
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Playing skaven to minimize randomness is like going to prom with your sister, you can do it if you really want, but in the end everyone will still laugh even if you do get lucky.


Clanlord Trask
18th April 2011 - 03:46 AM
I always take at least one Warpfire Thrower. You can't always rely on your opponent to do massive damage to your troops. Sometimes, you just have to do a job yourself.

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24th January 2012 - 11:25 PM
wait the leadership modifiers only apply to fear tests? not break tests?

....

Well vampires suck now
They have several leadership modifying upgrades. The plain -1 Ld modifier applies to everything. The re-roll and roll an extra dice modifiers are Fear only.
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They don't suck. Imagine fighting against 10 units of 20 Zombies that suddenly become 60 per unit... I think that is a boring army, but yes, Zombie spam is here.
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well the fear test also works with terror but yea that aspect changed alittle bit.
The beastmen charge from the woods the skaven from the ground. Men scream with nowhere to go it s a good day.
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Just got in my first game against the new VC. Hexwraiths are a joke. One cast of warp lightning and they vanish in a puff of smoke. Also, without having the general nearby they are not-so-fast-cav. They got one lucky run through a doomwheel, and did one wound. Woopty-do!

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26th January 2012 - 11:38 PM
They don't suck. Imagine fighting against 10 units of 20 Zombies that suddenly become 60 per unit... I think that is a boring army, but yes, Zombie spam is here.
they do when fighting anything with a decent amount of attacks.

i can see rat ogres being our go-to unit against VCs. i played against them with my normal ogres, was pretty fun saying "you lose combat by 21" and watching him take off half his unit after i'd just killed the other half
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26th January 2012 - 11:38 PM
They don't suck. Imagine fighting against 10 units of 20 Zombies that suddenly become 60 per unit... I think that is a boring army, but yes, Zombie spam is here.
Won't work

1 It would require a silly number of wizards
2 Your not guaranteed anything with low level wizards the summoning adds your level to it so lvl 1s will raise dubious amounts as a posed to level 4s raising lots. But the level 4s are rather expensive.
3 Side from the default spell is only 1 other summoning spell. the default casts on a 6 and is ranged 6" you can use it boosted I suppose but it's still going to be hard to get good numbers.
4 Zombies still suck my lizardmen list would rip through 60 zombies laughing. Same for any heavy hitting units like Sauraus / Warriors / monks / Savage Orcs / Swordmasters / Witchelfs and so on....
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I am actually not in the thinking either that Zombie spam is good, but strangely enough the best player at our club thinks so. But there are very few true Deathstars around here so that helps it a bit.

I would crush it too. I would just target the Characters with everything and then they can't get points.

Like, how could they do anything against my Dwarf Gunline? If they even get close I just beat them all with my huge Hordes.

So I don't think it will work but it will be boring to play against.
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