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| Tweet Topic Started: 2nd January 2012 - 01:02 PM (533 Views) | |
| HarleyXJGuy | 2nd January 2012 - 01:02 PM Post #1 |
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Grey Seer
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Ok so I stole me a very nice 1k list from this awesome forum called the Underempire. I am in the process of painting all of the guys for it but would like to get some game on while I am at it. So using the models in the following 1k list lets make up a 500 point army. While this may seem like a simple thing isnt this while we are all here? Skaven - 1000 Points (999 used) Grey Seer (1#, 245 pts) . . 1 Grey Seer, 245 pts (General; Hand Weapon) . . . . 1 Warpstone Tokens . . . . 1 Ironcurse Icon Battle Standard Bearer (1#, 72 pts) . . 1 Chieftain, 72 pts (Hand Weapon; Heavy Armour; Shield; Battle Standard Bearer) Clanrats (21#, 175 pts) . . 19 Clanrats, 175 pts (Musician Mus; Standard Bearer Std; Hand Weapon; Light Armour; Shield) . . . . 1 Clawleader (Hand Weapon; Light Armour; Shield) . . . . 1 Poisoned Wind Mortar Weapon Team (Poisoned Wind Mortar; Hand Weapon; Heavy Armour) Skavenslaves (35#, 72 pts) . . 35 Skavenslaves , 72 pts (Musician Mus; Hand Weapon) Skavenslaves (35#, 72 pts) . . 35 Skavenslaves , 72 pts (Musician Mus; Hand Weapon) Giant Rats (6#, 23 pts) . . 5 Giant Rats, 23 pts . . . . 1 Packmaster (Hand Weapon; Whip; Light Armour) Gutter Runners (5#, 90 pts) . . 5 Gutter Runners, 90 pts (Hand Weapon; Extra Hand Weapon; Sling; Throwing Star; Poisoned Attacks; Scouts; Skirmishers) Hell Pit Abomination (1#, 250 pts) . . 1 Hell Pit Abomination, 250 pts (Warpstone Spikes; Causes Terror; Large Target; Regenerate; Stubborn; Thunder Stomp) |
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| Flem | 2nd January 2012 - 01:19 PM Post #2 |
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A blood curling cough a day, keeps the assassins away
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Drop the seer for a warlock to be the general, give the bsb the standard of discipline. They can't use the general his Ld but who cares ad the Chieftain has more Ld to begin with. This way you also boost your warlock to a Ld of 6 so 9 for slaves with 3 ranks or more. Bring the slaves back to 30 each and the clanrats to 20, drop the banner and clawleader. And drop the musicians on your slaves. This should bring you to 504,5 points. Personally i'd drop the ratdart and bring 6 gutter runners. bringing you to 499,5 points if i'm not mistaking (don't have my book around) Flem, |
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| Thawzz13 | 2nd January 2012 - 01:28 PM Post #3 |
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Sleepai dooggy
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WLE doomrocket general 45 Chiftan BSB shield extra hand weapon 74 24 clanrats musc standard shields 120 2x 25 slaves shields musc 129 6x gutter runners poison slings 108 5x rats 1x packmaster 23 total 499 this isnt a great list but unfortunately you havent got a decent hitting power other than the HPA which isnt allowed |
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Victories and Losses (7) Wizards (4) Morale/psychology (2) Characters (2) Infantry (2) Monsters/Monstrous infantry (1) Warmachines (2) Painting/hobby (6) | |
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| Olorin the Ancient | 2nd January 2012 - 01:36 PM Post #4 |
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Yes, that's my 1000 point list! Since you're quoting my list as a model (which feels odd, anyway!), I'll tell you how I would downsize it. The single most important factor you're going to have to face in downsizing it to 500 points is that neither the Grey Seer nor the Hell Pit Abomination are legal at that size, as Lords, Heroes, and Rare are limited to 125 points. So instead of the Grey Seer, you should change your General to a Warlord, and the Hell Pit Abomination to a Warp Lightning Cannon. Furthermore, the only magic user you're going to be able to fit into your army at that size is a Warlock Engineer, and you won't be able to fit both him and a Battle Standard Bearer into your Heroes points. There are arguments to be made either way, but I guess I'd rather keep the Battle Standard Bearer. And since he's on your 1000 point list, and a Warlock Engineer is not, it's one less additional figure to paint. So here's my 1000 point list, altered and downsized to 500 points: 500 Pts - Skaven Roster - Olorin's Skaven Warlord (1#, 93 pts) . . 1 Warlord , 93 pts (General; Hand Weapon; Extra Hand Weapon; Heavy Armour; Extra Attack) Chieftain (1#, 72 pts) . . 1 Chieftain (Battle Standard Bearer), 72 pts (Hand Weapon; Heavy Armour; Shield; Battle Standard Bearer) Clanrats (24#, 120 pts) . . 24 Clanrats, 120 pts (Musician Mus; Standard Bearer Std; Hand Weapon; Light Armour; Shield) Skavenslaves (61#, 124 pts) . . 31 Skavenslaves, 64 pts (Musician Mus; Hand Weapon) . . 30 Skavenslaves, 60 pts (Hand Weapon) Warp Lightning Cannon (1#, 90 pts) . . 1 Warp Lightning Cannon, 90 pts . . . . 1 Engineer & Crew Composition Report: Points of Lords: 93 (0 - 125) Points of Heroes: 72 (0 - 125) Points of Core: 244 (125 - Unlimited) Points of Special: 0 (0 - 250) Points of Rare: 90 (0 - 125) Total Roster Cost: 499 Created with Army BuilderŪ Edited by Olorin the Ancient, 2nd January 2012 - 03:55 PM.
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| HarleyXJGuy | 3rd January 2012 - 04:44 PM Post #5 |
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Grey Seer
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Flem, Thawzz13 and Olorin thanks for the fast and well thought out responses. And Olorin thanks again for the 1k list. So for the 500 point list I am thinking option number three, but instead of the WLC I will use the 5 rat Gutter Runner uniit. Granted it is far from the toughest list out there but we are playing for fun and it should only be a couple of games while I finish up the 1k list. Edited by HarleyXJGuy, 3rd January 2012 - 04:46 PM.
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