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Topic Started: 28th December 2011 - 11:03 AM (668 Views)
lockwood
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ok so my bad but you first list just seemed like you where trying to fill the point with what ever you had manged to get a hold of

and as for me like clan rats for slaves it because they can be used as both clan rats an as slaves given the list where as i cant do that with zombes or gobins

i will say this tho your dislike of not altering models and you need to stick to what you see is what you get will make it harder on you a form that stand point you still may need more models

p.s. do you think i should try for a job in the sales department of GW?
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Fenris
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31st December 2011 - 04:35 PM
Using other races I agree, they jsut have to be heavily converted to appear like they'd be captured and enslaved by Skaven. Only that I don't agree using Ogres as slaves, maybe one per unit but no more, I'd say theyäd be too strong to represent slaves if more than one as unit filler.
What do you consider "heavily converted"? Some chain and a little green stuff and whammy! slaves! And as for the ogres, look man if your Skaven army is too weak to get it over on a unit of ogres then you may need to go see clan skyre and by some Cojones. The differences in hieght provided by a few ogres adds to the dishevlment and provides a lack of consistency that I would associate slaves with. And, almost more importantly, makes it easier to remove casualties. Ogres are tough, but not so tough that starvation and forced labour can't make them docile.
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i mostly use my clanrats as slaves and say before battle what everything is and if they fuss about the armour well if slaves can scavenge shields they can get some terrible armour which is so bad it has no effect gamewise

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Well, any armour, good weaponry, jewelry or practically anything worth anything must be cut off / hidden with GS as tehy would be looted by teh skaven. That takes pretty much time per model. About the Ogres, another thing is that slaves with S3 are badly representred by ogres, even chained ones.

I would like to get the comments back to my list from that how I like to use my models / what I can use as slaves. I listed models to use.
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by the way did you know the new box of clan rats say that it is a box of clanrats/slaves

just like the new WLC is a WLC/PCC so i see no reason any one can fight you on the clanrats are slaves if they give

any $!%% about it just show them the box and tell them GW got your back dog

(this last part is meant as a joke plz do not call the other player a dog)
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1st January 2012 - 06:16 PM
Well, any armour, good weaponry, jewelry or practically anything worth anything must be cut off / hidden with GS as tehy would be looted by teh skaven. That takes pretty much time per model. About the Ogres, another thing is that slaves with S3 are badly representred by ogres, even chained ones.

I would like to get the comments back to my list from that how I like to use my models / what I can use as slaves. I listed models to use.
We have, you need more slaves.
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I don't want to be the cynical one here but...we've given you ALOT of good advice and you seem to be arguing against us at almost every point. :/ It's like beating a dead horse b/c your constantly talking about WYSIWYG and things that aren't slave-y can't be slaves and you won't proxy. Honestly use the clan rats as slaves. I guarantee no one will argue with you whether or not they are slaves or clan rats, and it they do point them to a clan rat/slave box or a GW employee. Oh and an emaciated, tortured,beaten ogre could easily be S3 T3. You want advice how to use the models you listed? Sure, you won't win often, if at all. get more slaves, put the SV together nobody cares if they're different, and get more slaves!!! there...my rant is over...hope this helped <_<
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o an what a great rant it was...

but to spit that i agree with everything he said

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yeah no offence, but its difficult to give constructive criticism to a person who refuses to accommodate any at all.
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No offense taken I know how I am :P

But most of the advice is about where / how to get slaves. Ofcourse at beginning there were points about BSB, many units. But after I mentioned what I could do to change the lsit, no one said anything about it and kept on going about why I should use my clannies as slaves. Or saying I need more slaves. And please, if I said i wont mix the new & old SV's, don't tell me to do so, I did order 20 plastics more to get 40 and 30 units. Same with using clannies as slaves. My clanrats are clanrats. My slaves are slaves. Now please try to ask the changes withing those models I have or those I jus told I ordered. Thank you.

So again, if I drop the 20 SV's, should I take the 40 clannies? Or maybe more Monks? Maybe Weapon teams? Also Skalm and BSB weaponry can be dropped if need points. PCB's I'd like to keep even though they are small unit, but would like to get more ogres in game, so should the SV's be changed to ogres instaeD? Or smthing else?
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6 PCBs wont make it to combat or do anything as they have no armour u really want 10 of them in combat so a unit of 15 is about right

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2nd January 2012 - 08:40 AM
No offense taken I know how I am :P

But most of the advice is about where / how to get slaves. Ofcourse at beginning there were points about BSB, many units. But after I mentioned what I could do to change the lsit, no one said anything about it and kept on going about why I should use my clannies as slaves. Or saying I need more slaves. And please, if I said i wont mix the new & old SV's, don't tell me to do so, I did order 20 plastics more to get 40 and 30 units. Same with using clannies as slaves. My clanrats are clanrats. My slaves are slaves. Now please try to ask the changes withing those models I have or those I jus told I ordered. Thank you.

So again, if I drop the 20 SV's, should I take the 40 clannies? Or maybe more Monks? Maybe Weapon teams? Also Skalm and BSB weaponry can be dropped if need points. PCB's I'd like to keep even though they are small unit, but would like to get more ogres in game, so should the SV's be changed to ogres instaeD? Or smthing else?
Mathusala0 gave you plenty of suggestions in terms of changing your army within your scope. So far, you've stated that you were going to refine and re-post the list and you haven't done that yet.

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Changed the 20 stormies for additional monks and ogres for the game. Also dropped the 5 gutters to complete the ogre unit and used the spare on Grey Seer's items. I'll mutate my list later on when not in hurry.
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