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| SewerTenant | 28th December 2011 - 11:03 AM Post #1 | |
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Okay, gonna play this next week. Ideas welcomed, not guaranteed that I'd change much, but if the idea is good enough I can hijack it and tell everybody it was my idea in first place. Grey Seer @ 495p. -Screaming Bell, Skalm, Earthing Rod Chieftain @ 120p. -Battle Standard Bearer, Portents of Verminous Doom, Charmed Shield, Dwarfbane Warlock Engineer @ 158p. -lvl 2 Wizard, Doom Rocket, Warp-Energy Condenser, Warplock Pistol 30 Clanrats @ 155p. -Full Command, Shields 30 Clanrats @ 155p. -Full Command, Shields 30 Clanrats @ 155p. -Full Command, Shields 30 Stormvermin @ 280p. -Full Command, Razor Standard 20 Stormvermin @ 165p. -Full Command 18 Giant Rats & 3 Packmasters @ 78p. 25 Slaves @ 52p. -Musician 2 Rat Ogres & Packmaster @ 88p. 6 Plague Censer Bearers @ 96p. 14 Plague Monks @ 153p. -Full Command, Plague Banner 5 Gutter Runners @ 85p. -Poisoned Attacks Doomwheel @ 150p. Totals 2400 points. Most likely opponent is Dwarfs. Grey Seer joins 30 stormies and BSB 20 Stormies, clannies roll around and all cheap stuff goes for the war machines to put pressure on them (when they might shoot at the cheap stuff instead) Okay, get ready to comment
Edited by SewerTenant, 29th December 2011 - 07:58 AM.
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| SkavenDan | 28th December 2011 - 11:50 AM Post #2 | |
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Doomwheel Fanatic
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| Mathusala0 | 28th December 2011 - 05:16 PM Post #3 | |
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The Evil Underlord
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Okay, gonna play this next week. Ideas welcomed, not guaranteed that I'd change much, but if the idea is good enough I can hijack it and tell everybody it was my idea in first place. Grey Seer @ 495p. -Screaming Bell, Skalm, Earthing Rod skalm is highly unnecessary Chieftain @ 120p. -Battle Standard Bearer, Portents of Verminous Doom, Charmed Shield, Dwarfbane you dont want him getting into combat with dwarves, no matter what you gear him with, drop all that junk and put him in a bunker. Warlock Engineer @ 158p. -lvl 2 Wizard, Doom Rocket, Warp-Energy Condenser, Warplock Pistol level 2 is unnecessary as you already have a level 4, level 1 for warplightning is good, drop the pistol 30 Clanrats @ 155p. -Full Command, Shields good 30 Clanrats @ 155p. -Full Command, Shields good 30 Clanrats @ 155p. -Full Command, Shields good 30 Stormvermin @ 250p. -Full Command, Banner of Discipline give them razor standard or nothing at all. 20 Stormvermin @ 210p. -Full Command, Razor Standard ok drop these and combine the units into one, invest in a warlock engineer with skaven brew. 18 Giant Rats & 3 Packmasters @ 78p. break them up into 3 groups and they'll preform better 25 Slaves @ 52p. -Musician buff up to 50 so that you don't break in one turn 2 Rat Ogres & Packmaster @ 88p. drop 6 Plague Censer Bearers @ 96p. drop 14 Plague Monks @ 153p. -Full Command, Plague Banner either buff up the numbers or drop 5 Gutter Runners @ 85p. -Poisoned Attacks get many, many , many more. and give them slings Doomwheel @ 150p. need some cannons here, Totals 2400 points. Most likely opponent is Dwarfs. Grey Seer joins 30 stormies and BSB 20 Stormies, clannies roll around and all cheap stuff goes for the war machines to put pressure on them (when they might shoot at the cheap stuff instead) you dont want your grey sear with SV, you want SV in combat, you want your grey sear not in combat, ergo, Grey sear must not go in a unit of SV Okay, get ready to comment Commented |
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| SewerTenant | 28th December 2011 - 06:50 PM Post #4 | |
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Chieftain
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You seem to be correct. Well, I'll drop the LD-banner and swap the Razor to the bigger one. I'll answer to teh another message later, gotta do some food. Okay, lets see. How come Skalm is unnecessary? As screaming bell may be targeted separately from the unit, Grey Seer draws some attention, T4 and 4+ ward doesn't feel too good. Agreed with BSB, but I like to play that way, might change if need points for something. Warlock model has pistol. Will give the bigger SV's razor. Can't combine as the 30 are old metal models and the 20 new plastic ones. Too different. I dont use Giant rats as darts as they head towards the enemy war machines. A dart wont beat dwarf crew. I only have 25 slave models (only 4 unarmored bodies came in the old clannies per box, got 6 boxes and one slave made of marauder ) I mostly use these guys to disturb enemy movement, instead of nowadays common tarpitting. I would like to take more Rat Ogres instead, need some points. (got the 15 from the banner) PCB's stay. Love them, even though they usually kill themselves. I got only few Gutters and they don't have slings. Also I like these guys in melee Some claw-action. Might take 5 more if find models and points.I don't own any rare-choices except the wheel atm, gotta buy the cannon+catapult box though, I'll do the changes to list soon. Edited by SewerTenant, 28th December 2011 - 07:53 PM.
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| Mathusala0 | 29th December 2011 - 06:12 PM Post #5 | |
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The Evil Underlord
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ive played dwarves numerous times without it, if you get hit by a cannon and fail the 4+, your dead anywy
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seriously? cut the damn thing off if its to much to say "He doesn't have a pistol"
too different? thats a poor excuse just use them in one unit, or drop the 20 SV compleatly
that's not the point, its also to get in the way, force bad charges, stall deployment, all kinds of things.
which is what rat darts are for, slaves are a tarpitting unit, get more. if the dwarf army has any kind of hammer he will eat you alive in your current state.
... dwarves will eat ogres for breakfast with ll their great weapons
then at least get more of them.
my god man slings dont have to be modeled onto every model. and they wont get into cc with warmachines if the dwarf knows what hes doing I don't own any rare-choices except the wheel atm, gotta buy the cannon+catapult box though, I'll do the changes to list soon. |
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| SewerTenant | 29th December 2011 - 08:05 PM Post #6 | |
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Might be right about Skalm, bell might draw some crossbow fire too and so. Also there is 1/3 chance that the cannonball wont kill the Grey Seer. Also cool if lose wounds to miscasts. But, lets see. Well I wont destroy my Warlock model, and I like to play as much wysiwyg as possible. I could drop the 20 SV's, but wont use them in one unit as it would not look uniform anymore as old Stormies are very different to the new ones. Gonna buy +20 plastic ones to get 40 of them, but I doubt would get it before the game. What to get with the points? Also the slings, as I said about wysiwyg, if I buy some weapons to the unit, it must have it. Darts might be good, but I've played that unit quite long and it has always been totally worth it. Liked darts more back in 7th. Could also drop slaves, but dunno, I don't see any better things to get with their price. Well Rat Ogres are by no means attacking any great weapon -dwarf -units from front. At least not in that unit size. I'd like to get more PCB's but would need to order them to my local store first, and it wont make it before this game. |
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| lockwood | 30th December 2011 - 04:08 AM Post #7 | |
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i hat to tell you this but it sounds like you need to go buy a lot more rats like a battle box or something at this point see if you can't play low point games or see if you able to proxsy for the time being even i need more rat like 160 more and even then i have none for D13 spell if im playing at 3000pts |
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| SewerTenant | 30th December 2011 - 06:42 AM Post #8 | |
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I got still 65 spare clanrats, 25 spare plague monks, 4 Ogres and some jezzails and dozen of weapon teams (+pile of heroes). Only lack a couple opf warmachines, some slaves and the 20 SV's I haven't yet bought. Also some random stuff on top of those.
Edited by SewerTenant, 30th December 2011 - 06:56 AM.
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| Grey Seer Kwokka | 30th December 2011 - 07:01 AM Post #9 | |
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I'm a rat, I'm a rat, I'm a clever-clever rat!
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Just tell your opponent that the pistol isn't loaded and is only used for pistol-whipping (as they count as a hand-weapon) in CC.
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| lockwood | 31st December 2011 - 02:38 AM Post #10 | |
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let me put it this way my count is 140 clan rats 40 SV 20 PM 2 wLC 1 pcc 1 Sbell 1 DW 15 GR 1 GS 1 PP and with all this i am still have to use my VC 's for gutter runners and a unit of slaves and even as more pm's i need a 180 more min to hit 3000pts an that leaves little room for change and those 180 are mostly clan rats/slaves that i need +1 box of PM and 1 box of night runners(gutter runners) so yes you may need more rats to play past 2000pt at this point Edited by lockwood, 31st December 2011 - 02:39 AM.
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| Lord Twitch Silverfangs | 31st December 2011 - 03:15 AM Post #11 | |
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if you have 65 spare clan rats...why not just use them as slaves? -.- | |
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| lockwood | 31st December 2011 - 03:40 AM Post #12 | |
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that's a good idea and if you are wanting to stick to what you see is what you get you can brake spears for hand weapons | |
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| SewerTenant | 31st December 2011 - 09:28 AM Post #13 | |
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Meh, not using them as slaves, might drop the 20 SV's and some other stuff to get 40 Clanrats. About the modelcount, I ordered the WLC + Catapult and 20 stormies now. My current listing from which to make changes into the list is: 155 Clanrats (130 hw+shield, 25 spear + shield) 55 Stormvermin (35 metal + 20 plastic) 38 Plague Monks 25 Slaves 6 Rat Ogres 18 Giant Rats Grey Seer with Bell Grey Seer on foot IoB Warlord Named Warlord whom has no rules of his own Chieftain with shield Chieftain BSB Assassin 3 Warlock Engineers 6 Plague Censer Bearers Plague Priest with flail/censer Plague Priest on Great Pox Rat 5 Gutter Runners Doomwheel 3 Ratling Guns 3 Warp-fire Throwers Poisoned Wind Mortar 5 Jezzails And some random stuff on top of that which can't be used in this edition. |
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| Fenris | 31st December 2011 - 02:02 PM Post #14 | |
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I just orderd a bunch of slaves, Games workshop make loads of them in their own boxes and everything. They make ogre slaves and gnoblar slVEs and elf slaves and zombie slaves and dwarf slaves and goblin slaves and bretton slaves and psuedo germanic slave set, and lizardmen skink slaves. Yup, I got like 120 slave on their way right now. I'm being sarcastic if you can't tell at this poiunt. It seems like your allowing your self to be limited by games-workshop's lack of named slave box. Just go by a bunch of random races and field them in large units. nd whos to say a slave didn't pilfer suit of light armour. or was givin to him by the overseer to trick him into fighting harder. This game is a narrative, only limited by you. And think about this, the disheveled nature of slave would be perfectly mirrored by a bunch of random races ranked together in an ununiformed way. one box of ogres comes with six of em. and they each take up four spots. perfect for fielding alot of slaves. | |
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| SewerTenant | 31st December 2011 - 04:35 PM Post #15 | |
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Using other races I agree, they jsut have to be heavily converted to appear like they'd be captured and enslaved by Skaven. Only that I don't agree using Ogres as slaves, maybe one per unit but no more, I'd say theyäd be too strong to represent slaves if more than one as unit filler. | |
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Some claw-action. Might take 5 more if find models and points.
