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Topic Started: 23rd December 2011 - 09:30 PM (732 Views)
THE CLAW!!!


:KA-BOOM: Hello! This is what I've got for an army, what size army should I go for and how would I use it? What should I field and what shouldn't I? What should I get next and what do I urgently need? I'm going for a skryre themed army so no plague monks :sick: :priest: .

I currently have:

Grey seer #gs# on screaming bell, Ikit klaw, a warlord and a plague priest, one assasin and 2 warlock engineers.

40 Clanrats/skavenslaves (skaven) , 6 to 9 giant rats, 2 warpfire throwers ^Warpfire^ and one poison wind chukka!!!

4 rat ogres :rogre: :rogre2: with 2 packmasters and three jezzails.

1 hampster weel of death!!!

I might get 2 rat ogres and skweel for christmas so I'll post that in two days :P


Thank you council for allowing a lowly slave to post on your holy site :bow:



" Claw walked down the street or rather strugled for it was full to bursting with all the bodys pressing in on eachother. Claw smirked as he watched a skaven try to force his way out of his house to no avail. Claw thought he caught a flash of black out of the corner of his eye and he immediatly spun around with thoughts of clan eshin assasins...."
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Your urgent need is quite simple: Clanrat/Slaves... a lot of them

40 of them will only suffice barely for a 500 list in which you can't field your Grey Seer or Ikıt Claw.

The general guideline here is that 1 model for every 10 points you want to play at. Such is the Skaven way
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You do realise rat ogres and the like are also not sktyre too right ;)

You need to write up even a basic list, or you can give a brief discription of what your aiming for. If you are new to warhammer or just skaven id advise you to read the guide
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N°1: sorry I have 80 clan/slavens

N°2: I'm making an exeption for rat ogres (I need one hard hitting power because, let's face it, those useless slaves will never get anything done right!)

N°3: It's christmas toomorow :lol:

N°4: I'm also making exeptions for the lords/heros because I like plague spells more :) :sick:

N°5: All at my local club say that we just use the % now, are they right?

N°6: I'll look into it...

N°7: I realy want my rat ogres to beat my friends swamp ogres in combat! :ph43r:

N°8: Wich should I field, slaves or canrats and in what quantities?

N°9: Did I miss anything?

N°10: I love ^Warpfire^ (does the d3 wound multiplier act like this: hits a unit of clanrats wounds six but multiplies to 12, so 12 clanrats die? It isn't just aplied to each individual model?)

N°11: I'm not to sure what I'm aiming for exept for a skryre (and warpfire) heavy army. Oh and also a unit of rat ogres that can beat the hell out of swamp ogres! (At least that's what I think they are called).

N°12: Merry christmas!!! ( Thank you council of thirteen for allowing christmas to stand :bow: )



"Claw spun around but he didn't see anything. It was probebly just his imagination...Or was it?"
I've had a quick look into it and I think that it is only the% that apply to the army list now.
Edited by THE CLAW!!!, 24th December 2011 - 09:43 AM.
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"The Orks belive that red things go faster; beware of Orks with red bullets!" Green up Grotzilla!

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N°10 - I do not believe it works like that ;) as far as I know you roll a D3 for each individual hit by the WFT and thats how many wounds that individual takes... so if you roll a 3 against a clanrat the clanrat is dead and the excess wounds are lost, as per the 'Remove Casualties' section of the shooting rules.

So you hit and wound a unit of clanrats 6 times, roll for D3 multiple wounds and.... kill 6 clanrats :P even if you got 18 wounds in total only the 6 you hit die.

Page 45 of the IoB rulebook, at least :P
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Oh, that's a bumer you just nerfed my favorite unit :-/

Ah well :ermm: at least I won't be cheeting :D

I think I'll go with ratling guns and doom flayers instead than :ph43r: (I'll just proxy them until I can get the models)

What size army should I go for based on what I've got?

Merry christmas! :D


"Claw walked down the street shaken and scared..."

Am I going to have to do this every time I post? :-/
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go to your ptofile to create a sig,
and rattly guns are worse than wft for sure, they have to roll to hit and the dont get a huge number of shots
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What's a sig?

I'll try one of each in my next battle :) to see wich is the best.
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Signiture, something that appears after every comment you post. Like mine has a big picture, some links, and some placments
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The D3 works well against Ogres

Count the number of wounds, multiply by D3 is the number of wounds on Ogres this is because they have multiple wounds. So you hit 4 ogres multiplied by D3 = about 8 wounds => 2 dead Ogres and 1 with 2 wounds.


Against all enemies with 1 wound, it does only 1 wound and the D3 is kinda wasted (as stated before)
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:KA-BOOM: Got a signature now :lol:

What sized army should I go for based on what I've got?

Merry christmas!


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start with an 1000 point list. 500 is to boring to critique :P
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You sir are very ill prepared. regardless if your playing 1500 or more you want at least four units of core troops. two of which should be slaves of at least fifty men with a musician and thats it!, then one to be a clannie bunker of 25 models. This is for the general and the bsb and should never be in combat. And the third unit is prefference. I like a block of fourty clannies with just a standard and musician. None of these should be in a horde formation. All you want are the ranks for steadfast. This is the core of your army. what hold it together. Don't use the spears,you won't average enough extra attacks to actually win combat. go for the 6+ givin by the HWS combo. And don't taake the shields 0n the slaves. D-on't make me explain why. I have to go to works righ tnow and don't have time. Just suffice it to say that for the points you could get more rats in the unit which is better . Ikit claw works well. I like him. But i prefer the gry seer for the magic defense.
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How is this?

997/1000

Lord

Warlord: 116

Shield and halberd: X

Portents of verminous doom: XX



Core: 525

(All with shields and spears)
Clanrats: 170 (skaven)
Warpfire thrower ^Warpfire^

Clanrats: 100 (skaven)

Clanrats: 155 (skaven)
Ratling gun

Clanrats: 100 (skaven)


Special: 356

Rat ogres: 356 :rogre2:
x6(ogres)
x2(packmasters)
Skweel: 100

Open to scrutiny ^_^
Edited by Warlock Matik, 29th December 2011 - 07:38 PM.
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997/1000

Lord

Warlord: 142

Shield and halberd

Portents of verminous doom


never post exact points values. cannot use a shield and halbard together as the shield only gives him +1 armor against shooting when he has both, which is irrelevant as he should be in a unit.


Core: 525

(All with shields and spears)
Clanrats: 170
Warpfire thrower

how many clanrats? also, don't use spears, they make you lose parry save, they cost points, and they only give you one extra rank of attacks when charged, not a good upgrade. you want at least banners and musicians on everything so that you can swift reform and banners are for "Blood and Glory" mission, youll also want your units to be bigger than 20, more thank likely you'll want big blocks of 30+ for clanrats so that you can be steadfast longer..

Clanrats: 100

again, how many

Clanrats: 155
Ratling gun

again, how many

Clanrats: 100

again, how many (yes i know you have 20 but others can't tell.

Special: 356

Rat ogres: 356
x6(ogres)
x2(packmasters)
Skweel: 100

is basically the only way I will ever run them

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