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| Tweet Topic Started: 19th December 2011 - 10:01 PM (784 Views) | |
| Ratatak Gristlegouger | 19th December 2011 - 10:01 PM Post #1 |
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If I have my warlord on a bonebreaker with 40 clanrats, can he be picked off still without killing the rats first? like if a template weapon, or magic missles or arrows hit thhat unit, can he be specifically targeted? |
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| Scarr, Reincarnated | 19th December 2011 - 10:13 PM Post #2 |
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Yes. If he is hit by for example a cannonball he would not get a Look out Sir roll. This is where the Charmed Shield or at least a Ward save comes in handy. Edit: Mods should move this to Skaven Discussion sub-forum. Edited by Scarr, Reincarnated, 19th December 2011 - 10:15 PM.
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| Hong | 19th December 2011 - 10:22 PM Post #3 |
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Yes to all question That why I think warlitter is better |
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| Mathusala0 | 20th December 2011 - 07:02 AM Post #4 |
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arrows cannot hit him except when the unit has less than 6 rank and file models (page 99) they still have to target the unit. however, cannons and other templates hit him and do not allow him a look out sir. magic missiles are the same as above (with the exception a a few character targeting spells). and in close combat he may be targeted by anything in base contact. |
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| breenii | 20th December 2011 - 07:55 AM Post #5 |
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| Hong | 20th December 2011 - 05:17 PM Post #6 |
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Incorrect BRB, P99, Shooting Since warlord on a bonebreaker is a monstrous cavalry, and Skaven have no monstrous cavalry unit Which mean everyone with LOS to Warlord can target warlord instead. In otherword, any attack that distributed in the same manner as shooting attacks, can target warlord on a bonebreaker as if he is a lone model Sitting in a unit normally give no protection to warlord w. bonebreaker. You can imaging that...... in the battlefield, a lot of rats coming from far far away, you don't know who they are, but one of them obviously on top of a ratogre Edited by Hong, 20th December 2011 - 06:44 PM.
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| Mathusala0 | 20th December 2011 - 05:51 PM Post #7 |
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technically its a monstrous beast. so i don't know if being in a rat ogre unit offers any kind of protection in this way. however otherwise, I stand corrected. |
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| Hong | 20th December 2011 - 06:43 PM Post #8 |
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A character on monstrous beast is a monstrous cavalry and only follow the rules of monstrous cavalry Rat ogre is Monstrous Infantry, that is another different troop type So wherever your warlord w. bonebreaker is, they just get shooted.......... |
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| Mathusala0 | 20th December 2011 - 06:50 PM Post #9 |
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actually its still a MB according to the back of the book, But It doesn't work regardless, Rat ogres are monstrous infantry not beasts. so yeah, more reasons not to take a bonebreaker. |
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| CapAmr05 | 20th December 2011 - 06:55 PM Post #10 |
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Wrong, the bonebreaker by itself is a monstrous beast. As Hong stated, the second you put someone atop a monstrous beast (mounted) the combined model becomes Monstrous Cavalry. Skaven have no other monstrous cavalry so a look-out-sir is impossible for a Warlord-BoneBreaker to ever achieve. --Cap |
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| Mathusala0 | 20th December 2011 - 07:07 PM Post #11 |
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then why bother labeling it MB at all? why not just call it MC? seems rather pointless as it can never be run on its own. |
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| Ratatak Gristlegouger | 20th December 2011 - 07:08 PM Post #12 |
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| Mathusala0 | 20th December 2011 - 07:12 PM Post #13 |
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can't be done. only infantry models may be skitterleaped.
Edited by Mathusala0, 20th December 2011 - 07:16 PM.
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| Scarr, Reincarnated | 20th December 2011 - 07:15 PM Post #14 |
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You can't Skitterleap anything other than Infantry models, so that would not work. Interestingly enough, he seems very capable of forcing several LD tests, something that can be failed after some time. Therefore I think Portents of Verminous Doom is a pretty viable item and should be considered when you bring the Bonebreaker. I would always deploy him on a flank, because the amount of stuff that he can kill is most probably there and you get to deploy him last because he's a Character. |
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| Hong | 20th December 2011 - 07:21 PM Post #15 |
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Bonebreaker itself is MB However Warlord on bonebreaker is MC BRB, P.105
Bonebreaker is awesome and impressive Well, as long as this warlord is not army general then it's worth a try But warlitter is way better than bonebreaker XX pts for 4 extra S4 attack and +1 armor save Los, Infantry, Skitterleap-able...... No, warlord on bonebreaker can only join uClanrat, SV and RO...... Unless GW change this rule A unit of rat-ogre riders is very interesting...... But currently our AB only has something every good that everyone want them (HPA, Slave, GRunner, WLC.....) or something so suck like rat swarms and warpgrinder you will never see them on any competitive list Do not post exact unit/item costs, especially if you're going to then explain how they operate! --Cap Edited by CapAmr05, 20th December 2011 - 09:33 PM.
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