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| Deadestdai | 16th December 2011 - 05:33 PM Post #1 |
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A friend and I are thinking of starting up WFB. He Night Goblins and of course I Skaven. 1000 points is our beginning level. Heres my 1st list Im thinking that will be a good way to ease myself into the Skaven army style. Tried to keep it simple and cost effective $$$-wise, whilst at the same time offering plenty of troops as a base for expanding. Please feel free to comment and/or critique. Warlord Hvy Armour, Halberd, War Litter - 128 pts Chieftain Hvy Armour, Battle Standard Bearer, Shield - 72 pts 30 x Clan Rats Light Armour, Shiled, Musician, Standard, Clawleader, Warpfire Team - 225 pts 30 x Slaves Musician - 62 pts 30 x Slaves Musician - 62 pts 20 x Stormvermin Halberd, Hvy Armour, Musician, Standard, Fangleader, Warpfire Team - 235 pts 5 x Gutter Runners Throwing Stars, Extra hand weapon, Slings, Warpdrill - 125 pts Warp Lightning Cannon - 90 pts Total = 999 pts |
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| Mathusala0 | 16th December 2011 - 05:48 PM Post #2 |
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your slave units are too small. so are your vermin. gutter runners should not have a warp drill. bsb and warlord are good. no magic isnt that big a deal at 1000 points. consider dropping the clanrats/sv. get poison attacks and slings for your gutter runners. Ill do more when I get home just a quick critique. If Gazz or Borg get on anytime soon they should both be able to do a more intricate breakdown. (I hereby give them permission to use the yellow [which I don't need to give them permission to do]) |
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| Olorin the Ancient | 16th December 2011 - 07:25 PM Post #3 |
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Mathusala0, Actually, I think you may be the one who needs permission to edit in yellow! Each color is assigned to a member of the Council of Thirteen for editing purposes and yellow is currently the property of chieftainskritchskritch. Granted, she doesn't use it very often, but it's still hers to claim exclusively, if she chooses. The official colors of each Council member are listed in The Squeekpaw Guide to the UnderEmpire. Some of us use our colors very often; others, not so much. Personally, I'm attached to my orange and wouldn't be totally happy about someone else using it. It's completely up to chieftainskritchskritch to decide how she feels about her yellow. |
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| Mathusala0 | 16th December 2011 - 10:43 PM Post #4 |
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I think the only unclaimed color is red. But I wasnt laying claim to the color, I just use it for highlights Im technically not able to edit posts... Unless I became a council member *cough* |
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| Gazz't Rootgnasher | 17th December 2011 - 12:20 AM Post #5 |
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| sicsempertyrannids | 17th December 2011 - 02:10 AM Post #6 |
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Warlitter's definitely worth it. BSB is good. The Clanrats don't need all the upgrades, I think. Mathusala0 is right about the slaves. I think you need rat darts, too. They're cheap and excellent against frenzied guys. |
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| Mathusala0 | 17th December 2011 - 04:29 PM Post #7 |
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Just going to add that while stormvermin can be used in mass. they are just inefficient in mass, it wastes points that could be spent on other things. I think at best you could have 2 "mini stars" of Storm Vermin useing all the available tools (skavenbrew, death frenzy, razor banner, decked out warlord, chieftain Tretch, so on) |
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| Chico | 17th December 2011 - 11:00 PM Post #8 |
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Warlord Hvy Armour, Halberd, War Litter- 128 pts Effective and somewhat affordable, i would lose the Halberd and have a shield plus PA. Chieftain Hvy Armour, Battle Standard Bearer, Shield - 72 pts Run with a Storm Banner and he'll be your best friend. 30 x Clan Rats Light Armour, Shiled, Musician, Standard, Clawleader, Warpfire Team - 225 pts I'd run a PWM rather then a WFT 30 x Slaves Musician- 62 pts 30 x Slaves Musician- 62 pts Maybe go up to 35 strong 20 x Stormvermin Halberd, Hvy Armour, Musician, Standard, Fangleader, Warpfire Team - 235 pts If your using them as your bunker unit again use a PWM 5 x Gutter Runners Throwing Stars, Extra hand weapon, Slings, Warpdrill - 125 pts No need for a Warp Grinder, take PA and slings Warp Lightning Cannon- 90 pts Good Total = 999 pts You may want to add in a Rat dart or 2, or a Warlock with either a wonder weapon or magic lvl. |
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| Deadestdai | 19th December 2011 - 11:40 PM Post #9 |
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Appreciate all the responses. Few questions - 1. What is a "rat dart" anyway? 2. Am rather partial to Rat Ogres having fallen in love with the Island of Blood sculpts muchly. Thing is, I never see them in lists here? Are they rubbish in the current army book? If so, why? 3. There is no 3rd question. |
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| Grey Seer Kwokka | 20th December 2011 - 12:56 AM Post #10 |
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1/. An affectionate term for a small unit of exactly 5x Giant Rats and 1x Packmaster. These cheap-and-nasties are incredible flankers and great harassment units at a meager 23pts. It's common for larger armies to field several of them for the purposes of out-deploying the enemy. 2/. Rat Ogres are nice and I share your fondness of them, but they simply die too easy for the massive points investment. My understanding is that they only work with Skweel and even then, you'd be better off with Giant Rats. 3/. OH GOD, I'M FADING... |
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| Deadestdai | 20th December 2011 - 10:05 PM Post #11 |
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Okay so a revision running along the lines of the kind advisements given above. 1x Warlord - Shield, War Litter, Poisoned Attacks 143 pts 1x Chieftain - Shield, Battle Standard Bearer, Storm Banner 125 pts 30 x Clanrats - Shields, Musician, Standard Bearer, Clawleader, Poisoned Wind Mortar 220 pts 40 x Slaves - Musician 82 pts 40 x Slaves - Musician 82 pts 5 x Gutter Runners Sling, Poisoned Attacks - 90 pts 1x Warp Lightning Cannon 90 pts 5 x Giant Rats + Packmaster 23 pts 5 x Giant Rats + Packmaster 23 pts 5 x Giant Rats + Packmaster 23 pts 1 x Warlock Engineer lvl 1 mage, Doomrocket 95 pts Total = 996 Just worried with a list like this that I dont have anything particularly big hit enough aside from the Doomrocket? Edited by Deadestdai, 20th December 2011 - 11:52 PM.
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| koffietje | 21st December 2011 - 08:56 AM Post #12 |
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You got the WLC and the warlock engineer. those are your "big hitters". The slaves are just there to stall the enemy while you blow them to pieces with your wlc and gutter runners and pwm. And the clanrats are just there to keep an eye out for your warlord. Its a good list. Especially against goblins. |
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| Hong | 21st December 2011 - 01:18 PM Post #13 |
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I agree. And the warlord also able to kill a lot against non elite unit Though I prefer Rat hound and tail weapon to Posioned attack Rolling dice is fun, rolling more dices is more fun:P |
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