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| Tweet Topic Started: 25th October 2011 - 10:37 AM (101 Views) | |
| saphappysucker | 25th October 2011 - 10:37 AM Post #1 |
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So I am new to fantasy. Picked up a lot of Skaven. The thing about fantasy is you have to paint so much that you have to love the models and this army has it all. So here is what I am kicking around in my head. Just need to pick up some of the rare stuff. So here is the List at 3000pts Lords 505 Grey Seer Screaming Bell 505 pts Power Stone Warp stone Token Warp Stone Token Warp stone Token Being pushed by 40 Clan rats 200pts Shields Banner Claw leader Musician Heroes 420 Chieftain 120 Battle Standard Banner Storm Banner Warlock Engineer 150 Level 2 wizard Warp Energy Condensser Warp stone token Warp stone token Warlock Engineer 150 Level 2 Wizard Warpmusket Staff of Sorcery Core 1050 40 Clan Rats 285 Shields Spears Banner Musician Claw leader Poisoned wind mortar 40 Clan Rats 285 Shields Spears Banner Musician Claw leader Poisoned wind mortar 39 Clan Rats 280 Spears Sheilds Banner Musician Claw Leader Poison wind mortar Special 308 6 Warplock Jezzails 130 Sharpshooter Rat Ogres 178 Master Moulder Thing Catcher Shock prod Rat Hound Body Guard Rat Ogre Master breed Rare 715 Doomwheel 150 Doomwheel 150 Warp Lightning Cannon 90 Warp Lightning Cannon 90 Hellpit Abomination 235 This is just a rough Idea of the stuff I wanted to model and play with. Just need to pick up a cannon and doomwheel to finish it all up. So what do you guys think? I am ignoring some of the obvious meta options or I am too focus on Magic/Anti magic? I usually pair the Chieftain up with the 39 Clan rat unit use them as my "Best" Melee unit. Spam Mortar Fire as much as possible. I usually just use the extra Spell dice to hit the much needed Dreaded Thirteenth spell. As a person who owns over 200 clan rats I like that my extra dudes get some use. I am not sure if the Greyseer should use Plaque spells over Ruin. I have the 2 engineers for all the ruin I need? I really only get to play against High Elves and Wood elves. The Storm Banner is really strong against both or should I use a different Banner? The load of Wizards is so I can get a lot of my spells off when needed. I stare down a lot of Spellweavers and Mages. Is the Insane amount of Awesome Rare choices overkill? or they not as power as one might infer? Thanks for your time? |
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| Borgomos | 25th October 2011 - 10:52 AM Post #2 |
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Ehm.....Here are some points to make the list better. One level 4 and two level 2's are too much. Even with those tokens you won't be able to use all of their spells. I suggest drop a warlocks caster level to 0, and give him some toys like doomrocket. Your core is too small. 160 clanrats, no slaves. At 3000 points you need at least 250, more likely 300 models. 3 Rat ogres with no packmasters and a master moulder with expensive junk is a weak unit. Rat ogres have no armor, and they easily get trashed by Elves. If you are hell-bent on using the Ogres at least run them 5-6 with 4 packmasters Spears on clanrats = Not good. You lose the shield parry. Clawleader = Why? Just get another clanrat. Chieftain = Give him a shield Jezzails = You have enough cannons + DW's . I'd get rid of these. |
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| Mathusala0 | 25th October 2011 - 05:52 PM Post #3 |
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The Evil Underlord
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+1 to everything borg said with a few changes Clawleaders should only be in unit you plan on having characters in to be "chump challengers" 1 model per 10 points so as borg said around 300 models (slaves makes this easy) jazzails look awesome but suck. Id change
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for the warlocks id drop one to a level 1 and give him the condenser. the other id drop to be normal and give him a doomrocket. Basically, you've fallen into the trap that most new players fall into which is "I want to max out all my characters and take what looks cool/ what gw told me too" which is not a bad thing, its just common. |
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| Borgomos | 25th October 2011 - 06:04 PM Post #4 |
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Never tried Skweel in Ogre groups before so i can't comment on that. When i run him i use Giant Rat hordes to and hope i get a giant block of 40 poisonous attacks or a giant block of a tarpit with Regen. |
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