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My First List - New to Fantasy
Topic Started: 25th October 2011 - 10:37 AM (101 Views)
saphappysucker


So I am new to fantasy. Picked up a lot of Skaven. The thing about fantasy is you have to paint so much that you have to love the models and this army has it all. So here is what I am kicking around in my head. Just need to pick up some of the rare stuff.

So here is the List at 3000pts

Lords 505

Grey Seer Screaming Bell 505 pts
Power Stone
Warp stone Token
Warp Stone Token
Warp stone Token
Being pushed by
40 Clan rats 200pts
Shields
Banner
Claw leader
Musician

Heroes 420

Chieftain 120
Battle Standard Banner
Storm Banner

Warlock Engineer 150
Level 2 wizard
Warp Energy Condensser
Warp stone token
Warp stone token

Warlock Engineer 150
Level 2 Wizard
Warpmusket
Staff of Sorcery

Core 1050

40 Clan Rats 285
Shields
Spears
Banner
Musician
Claw leader
Poisoned wind mortar

40 Clan Rats 285
Shields
Spears
Banner
Musician
Claw leader
Poisoned wind mortar

39 Clan Rats 280
Spears
Sheilds
Banner
Musician
Claw Leader
Poison wind mortar

Special 308

6 Warplock Jezzails 130
Sharpshooter

Rat Ogres 178
Master Moulder
Thing Catcher
Shock prod
Rat Hound Body Guard
Rat Ogre Master breed

Rare 715

Doomwheel 150

Doomwheel 150

Warp Lightning Cannon 90

Warp Lightning Cannon 90

Hellpit Abomination 235


This is just a rough Idea of the stuff I wanted to model and play with. Just need to pick up a cannon and doomwheel to finish it all up.

So what do you guys think?

I am ignoring some of the obvious meta options or I am too focus on Magic/Anti magic?

I usually pair the Chieftain up with the 39 Clan rat unit use them as my "Best" Melee unit. Spam Mortar Fire as much as possible. I usually just use the extra Spell dice to hit the much needed Dreaded Thirteenth spell. As a person who owns over 200 clan rats I like that my extra dudes get some use. I am not sure if the Greyseer should use Plaque spells over Ruin. I have the 2 engineers for all the ruin I need?

I really only get to play against High Elves and Wood elves. The Storm Banner is really strong against both or should I use a different Banner? The load of Wizards is so I can get a lot of my spells off when needed. I stare down a lot of Spellweavers and Mages.

Is the Insane amount of Awesome Rare choices overkill? or they not as power as one might infer?

Thanks for your time?


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Borgomos
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Ehm.....Here are some points to make the list better.

One level 4 and two level 2's are too much. Even with those tokens you won't be able to use all of their spells. I suggest drop a warlocks caster level to 0, and give him some toys like doomrocket.

Your core is too small. 160 clanrats, no slaves. At 3000 points you need at least 250, more likely 300 models.

3 Rat ogres with no packmasters and a master moulder with expensive junk is a weak unit. Rat ogres have no armor, and they easily get trashed by Elves.
If you are hell-bent on using the Ogres at least run them 5-6 with 4 packmasters

Spears on clanrats = Not good. You lose the shield parry.

Clawleader = Why? Just get another clanrat.

Chieftain = Give him a shield

Jezzails = You have enough cannons + DW's . I'd get rid of these.
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Mathusala0
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The Evil Underlord

+1 to everything borg said with a few changes

Clawleaders should only be in unit you plan on having characters in to be "chump challengers"

1 model per 10 points so as borg said around 300 models (slaves makes this easy)

jazzails look awesome but suck.

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If you are hell-bent on using the Ogres at least run them 5-6 with 4 packmasters


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If you are hell-bent on using the Ogres at least run them 5-6 with 4 packmasters and sqweel gnawtooth


for the warlocks id drop one to a level 1 and give him the condenser. the other id drop to be normal and give him a doomrocket.

Basically, you've fallen into the trap that most new players fall into which is "I want to max out all my characters and take what looks cool/ what gw told me too" which is not a bad thing, its just common.
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Borgomos
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Never tried Skweel in Ogre groups before so i can't comment on that. When i run him i use Giant Rat hordes to and hope i get a giant block of 40 poisonous attacks or a giant block of a tarpit with Regen.

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