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| Tweet Topic Started: 20th September 2011 - 10:08 AM (251 Views) | |
| zbones | 20th September 2011 - 10:08 AM Post #1 |
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Hey guys, I am new to whfb and I am looking for an army. Not just any army, but an army i am going to have a blast playing. I don't need a power army to have fun, but i would like to have a good chance of winning most matches. I do not plan on playing a WAAC list, but more of a versatile fluffy one; but its always good to know you have some super nasty tricks up your sleeves when it comes to playing powergamers and dicks. So I heard that Skaven are a very fun army to play, Can you kind Rat-Things explain to me how? Give me all the good and nasty tid-bits! Thankssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssss. -Zbones |
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| RedPlague | 20th September 2011 - 10:10 AM Post #2 |
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Chieftain
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All goblin army... *giggles* |
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| koffietje | 20th September 2011 - 03:59 PM Post #3 |
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We are absolutely no fun at all. Every week my warlock engineer comes up with a clever idea to kill me. Every day , my clanrats are plotting or planning to get me killed. Every hour my slaves steal pointy stuff to insert in my a) throat b ) stumach c) that lower point where you really really dont want anything to get stuck in... If you think thats funny... then try thinking of this... my clanrats eat my slaves. My rat ogres devour my clanrats my hellpit abomination eats my rat ogres. I hardly get any food at all... Still think its funny? When my warlock engineer says "wow, this looks like fun. Lets have a blast!" ... he actually means "lets blow stuff up" When a Grey Seer (may the Horned Rat bless them all) says to you " i d like to invite you for dinner" ... then he actually wants you to rub some pepper in your fur, stuff an apple in your mouth and turn around quietly on the barbeque... Clanrats have absolutely no problem with authority...they just choose to ignore it. When a Rat ogre is angry and goes into a killing frenzy he sometimes picks up a nasty sword, runs towards the enemy and halfway forgets exactly what it is he was doing... And the worst part is...i have 40 giant rats in my cellar. I also have (probably had) a winecellar but cant reach it anymore because those rats are constantly trying to bite me. Yes...my life is a shackle of fun and amusement... the one whose having a laugh is usually the one stepping up to me after the game is over and says "well...better luck next time..." . did that giant rat just eat my shoe? |
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| scratchydoom | 20th September 2011 - 04:09 PM Post #4 |
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well in otherwords... Skaven are one of the most diverse army's to play with an insane amount of backstories.... If your into armies that have many different builds for fun and competitive army lists then this is your army, on top of that the fluff that you can create based of skaven background for your army can be very rewarding.... the only downside of collecting skaven is that you need to paint so much! |
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| Razuli | 20th September 2011 - 07:31 PM Post #5 |
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As Scratchydoom said, we have a amount of diversity within our army and almost all of our choicesare still considered competeive at some level. In fact, our "fluffy armies" are often able to compete with other tournement level armies. You could field CC oriented Pestilens/moulder theme, or a shooty/magicy skyre theme, to an underhanded army with a lot of tricks, and anything in between. Skaven also have a very well developed lore with practically half the AB devoted to it, and unlike Empire or Helves, where there are only so many different city states to pull your army from (lore wise), Skaven have innumerable clans, so it is perfectly fine fo you to make up your own while staying completely within established lore for Warhammer. Its also difficult to write an "unfluffy" skaven list unless you are playing a greater clan becuase in skaven society lesser clans buy equipment/monsters/services of the four greater clans and can basically comprise of any combination you want, though a strong core of CR and slaves are pretty much always nessicary. Rules, Skaven are rather complicated with all of the poorly written special rules, but are one of the strongest armies in the game currently regardless. It will take some getting used to playing skaven, and if there are not already many skaven players in your area you are going to need to know the rules very well (well you should regardless, but even more so if you are the only one defending skaven rules). Game play wise skaven are a bunch of random elements, tied to gether by inmovable blocks of Rats. Due to Strenght in Numbers, inspiring prescence, and whatever the BsB buff was called, Skaven combat blocks and tarpits alike are often rerollable LD 10. You can field blocks of Plague monks and SV for the most reliable damge in our army (note its still often pretty low), or take risks and field alot of Weapon teams, WLCs, and PCCs, who can explode and deal varibale damage. The Skaven magic Lores are not the powerhouses that are the BRB lores, but they are still strong, with great synergy with the rest of your army. Death frenzy your clan rats, and suddenly they become a threat rather than just another tarpit in an army of tarpits, Bless with filth your PMs and watch them take down high toughness units that they normally struggle against. Plague and Dreaded 13th are both extremely powerful spells, the latter being on par with most of the '6" spells form the BRB lores. Skaven have one of the most powerful rares currently in the game in the form ofthe Hellit Abomination, which, if you don't want to play cheesy like you said you didn't, I would stay away from this unit unless you like Clan Moulder and plan on building a list around them (at whihc point they probally need at least one). Our other rares, the WLC, PCC, and DW are also strong for their points, but they, especially the DW and WLC, suffer from random damge potenial. Also, though we really have the same chance to misfire as most other armies (assuming no rereoll engineers), our misfires are a whole lot more deadly. Every skaven player remembers a few games where his army defeated its self before combat with your opponent even began. ' Of course there are always downsides as well. Skaven have a low base LD and loste it when flanked, and also don't have it when fleeing, Once they start running you probally won't get them back. Also alot of units that cause the high dmage in ourarmy are glass cannons of sorts, and can be aken out with shooting. Also there is a daunting number of models you need to paint becuase skaven require so many models to function properly. All in all, I love skaven, and I really havvn't looked back since I started playing them. I played Orcs and Goblins in 6th and early 7th, but started playing Skaven late 7th and when the New Orc AB and models I didn't eventhink about picking them up again becuase I have been enjoying skaven so much. |
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| Warlord McQueek | 20th September 2011 - 08:03 PM Post #6 |
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Your stuff can blow up your own stuff! That's pretty much the definition of fun, right? But when it doesn't, and indeed, if all of it goes well (there's a small, small chance) you will easily wipe the enemy off the table. Now, don't count on that happening. Expect to lose a couple of (units of) Slaves and Clanrats, perhaps even proper units, when destroying your opponent. But hey, there is more where they came from! Send in expendable troops (most of 'em) to hold back expensive enemies. By the time those dangerous units have carved their way through your regiment (strenght in numbers, a BSB and steadfast will make sure - that is, reasonably likely - they stay) you should've hit that same unit with various noisy and possibly foul-smelling weaponry to reduce those elites to a bubbling mess. If that isn't enough yet, there is such a diversity in 'noisy and probably foul-smelling weaponry' that you'll be busy for the next few years to discover all the many possibilities of how to terminate so-called 'superior' troops with our reliable machines, monsters and magic. The best part is this: when you blow up an expensive unit of your opponent, you can laugh. If you blow up one of your own units ("by accident"), you can still laugh. Every turn of the game you will be able to laugh and kill things. That's just amazing, isn't it? Enjoy! |
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