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Warlord on Bonebreaker and poisoned attacks
Topic Started: 29th August 2011 - 12:30 PM (873 Views)
Skrits
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Quick question.

Since upgrading to poisoned attacks states that the model gets poisoned attacks, does this mean that your bonebreaker gets poisoned attacks as well? 9 poisoned attacks is pretty good odds of 1 or 2 being an immediate wound.

I'm not really sure if it would be worth it since Str 5 attacks are wounds on 3+ most of them time but still it might be nice on high toughness targets.

Second question:

What would be the ideal way to spread points between the Warlord on Bonebreaker and Grey Seer in a 2000 point game?
If you are gonna say don't take both in a game like that then consider that this setup is mostly used in a 2v2 situation where my army isn't fielding the general and might get away with a dispell scroll on another character.

At the moment I'm thinking:

Grey Seer
Dispell Scroll
Foul Pendant

Warlord on Bonebreaker
Warpstone armour
Halberd / Shield
Other Tricksters shard / Poisoned attacks

This is 498 points. Problem with this though is that my Grey Seer is a bit more vulnerable then I like and my Warlord could use some extra power as well.
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Razuli
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No, he doesn't gain poison. Poison only effects the attacks from the person with it, not their mounts, though you could cast bless with filth to have have a bonebreaker with poisoned attacks.

At 2000 points having both a GS and a warlord (especially on a bonebreaker) will probally be far too many points spent in Lords, you would actually probally do better using one or the other. If you decided to use the bone breaker lord you are going to need to give him a ward save though since he is your general and since he cannot claim LoS. You should also try to fit a lvl 2 and a lvl 1 PP or WE in there as well.
skavenmatt,Sep 11 2010
10:05 PM
Playing skaven to minimize randomness is like going to prom with your sister, you can do it if you really want, but in the end everyone will still laugh even if you do get lucky.


Clanlord Trask
18th April 2011 - 03:46 AM
I always take at least one Warpfire Thrower. You can't always rely on your opponent to do massive damage to your troops. Sometimes, you just have to do a job yourself.

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Skippy13
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i dunno, i like taking a warlord on bonebreaker with a grey seer in 2250, some times i take a warlord with level 2 engineer and plague priest.

try using

warlord
bonebreaker
corrupted blade
enchanted shield
talisman of preservation

thats 4 strength 5 attacks with multiple wound, 5 stregth 5 attacks with stomp 4+ ward and 2+ armour, not too bad for 240pts
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Fangleader Labrat
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Does Corrupted blade work together with enchanted shield? Or else he will only have heavy armor, and shield when being attacked with shooting, right?
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20th September 2011 - 10:43 AM
Does Corrupted blade work together with enchanted shield? Or else he will only have heavy armor, and shield when being attacked with shooting, right?
yet but no parry since hes already a ward it doesn't matter.
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Skippy13
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he can generally take on most monsters and combat characters single handed, i put him in a unit of 40 strong stormvermin against ogres and did quite well...smashing his tyrant into the ground!!!
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SkavenDan
20th September 2011 - 12:23 PM
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20th September 2011 - 10:43 AM
Does Corrupted blade work together with enchanted shield? Or else he will only have heavy armor, and shield when being attacked with shooting, right?
yet but no parry since hes already a ward it doesn't matter.
Let me rephrase the question to get a clearer answer on it. In a combat with say, another prince.
I play against HE so he hits first and gets his rerolls going. He hits me with 3 S5 attacks, and he hits on all three, but wounds on two.
I intend to strike back with Corrupted blade, but since I will be doing this, my corrupted blade is considered a magic weapon which do not state that it is a handweapon,
or a weapon wielded in one hand, leaving me with no shield all together in this close combat, right?

So I can either choose to use a mundane weapon and the enchanted shield, or I can use the corrupted blade and get -2 effective armour save?

Forget about the parry save, i am not interested in that, but can I use both the enchanted shield and the corrupted blade in close combat and get the 2+ armour save?
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21st September 2011 - 08:36 AM
SkavenDan
20th September 2011 - 12:23 PM
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20th September 2011 - 10:43 AM
Does Corrupted blade work together with enchanted shield? Or else he will only have heavy armor, and shield when being attacked with shooting, right?
yet but no parry since hes already a ward it doesn't matter.
Let me rephrase the question to get a clearer answer on it. In a combat with say, another prince.
I play against HE so he hits first and gets his rerolls going. He hits me with 3 S5 attacks, and he hits on all three, but wounds on two.
I intend to strike back with Corrupted blade, but since I will be doing this, my corrupted blade is considered a magic weapon which do not state that it is a handweapon,
or a weapon wielded in one hand, leaving me with no shield all together in this close combat, right?

So I can either choose to use a mundane weapon and the enchanted shield, or I can use the corrupted blade and get -2 effective armour save?

Forget about the parry save, i am not interested in that, but can I use both the enchanted shield and the corrupted blade in close combat and get the 2+ armour save?
Pretty sure unless a magic items stated " Requires two hands" it is considered one handed and so you can use a shield..

You just don't benefit from the parry save as it is a magic weapon..
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21st September 2011 - 08:36 AM
Forget about the parry save, i am not interested in that, but can I use both the enchanted shield and the corrupted blade in close combat and get the 2+ armour save?
Assuming you have heavy armour an enchanted shield and a war-litter yes that is 2+ save
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Razuli
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The only magic weapon we have access to that takes two hands to use are the Fnecer blades since it has the paired weapons rule. All other magic weapons we can use are single handed, so can use a normal shield, or even a magical shield.
skavenmatt,Sep 11 2010
10:05 PM
Playing skaven to minimize randomness is like going to prom with your sister, you can do it if you really want, but in the end everyone will still laugh even if you do get lucky.


Clanlord Trask
18th April 2011 - 03:46 AM
I always take at least one Warpfire Thrower. You can't always rely on your opponent to do massive damage to your troops. Sometimes, you just have to do a job yourself.

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The only magic weapon we have access to that takes two hands to use are the Fnecer blades since it has the paired weapons rule....


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Solegga
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The warlord, since he's considered a single model, once mounted on a war-litter or (better yet) a Bone-breaker, is a tough nut to crack. Both occupy one-model space, so... B)

I use the war litter, since I prefer always having a Grey Seer. And since the chosen of the Horned Rat always wants (and gets) his Bell, points aren't enough due to ETC restrictions to give the Lord his pet Ogre... :blush:
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Skippy13
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yes you do get the corrupted blade and 2+ armour save, it says you can use a magical shield and a magical weapon.
btw dont let anyone cast dwellers below or cloud of corruption....
Edited by Skippy13, 22nd September 2011 - 08:23 PM.
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