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Riots in UK; very bad
Topic Started: 9th August 2011 - 11:07 PM (1,107 Views)
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10th August 2011 - 06:21 PM
This is ridiculous behaviour by any standards, they're wrecking things which survived two World Wars...

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Agreed just set the police dogs on them and don't make them stop soon be running for there lives.

We've loads of police dogs in yorkshire we should ship em into the action.
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10th August 2011 - 06:21 PM
Curfews would never work, this is a society that lives as much at night as in the day.
I disagree blader, I think that in the short term a curfew is viable. A lot of the problem at present is so many people are hanging around watching and videoing the violence that it becomes less easy for the police to identify and catch the culprits before they melt into the crowd. If you order a curfew and say that anyone on the streets after a certain time will be considered a high risk then it makes the policing job easier.

It is by no means a long term solution, I grant you, but with gangs of vigilantes starting to appear on the streets fuelled by anger I think it imperative we try and keep people at home.

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With the amount of recourses being pulled in from this they have probably already been shipped.

As someone who has taken part in peaceful demonstrations and seen excessive use of force by the police on innocent people all I say is.

I WANT EVERY LAST RIOTER IN JAIL.

Why? Because the reason the police so often react violently is because people like these looter thugs so often hijack peaceful protests and attempt to cause violence.

If we get enough of these thugs behind bar than I may well soon be able to protest in from of Parliament again. These are the people who have ruined dozens of peaceful protests. But now they have no peaceful protests to hide amongst and I hope the police show them to true meaning of the phrase “excessive force”
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This is hardly a cause for major concern. They will be taught through disgrace but the problem is we CANNOT punish most of them. It is the governments fault for not imposing new laws based on this and the young people will not suffer and go to jail.

Its time for the human race to wake up. to see itself in all its brutal, decaying glory. This is the human race, and this will be civil war. I personally cannot care for them, we have fallen into darkness and we cannot escape.

I do not care if they are wounded but the the law system prevents it, it stops all of this. Personally, tear gas would work, drive them away, followed by rubber bullets and then use live rounds and "water cannon." But that costs money and we do not have that.

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More than that, economic damage and reputation and far more beyond that.
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Ok, I'm from Ireland so I know this doesn't really concern me but I'm going to stick out my neck and say that people should possibly calm down a bit.

I agree that a lot, most of the people rioting like this are the scum of the earth and deserve nothing less than to be locked away for the rest of their lives. I agree that a lot of these will probably never reform and are nothing more than a burden to society.

However, there are almost certainly a lot of people among them who aren't nearly as bad. People who are just there because everyone else is there and who aren't really taking part, people who are there because they're extremely poor and don't want to turn up the chance for free stuff and people who are simply too stupid to properly realise that what's going on is sickeningly wrong. Open up with machine guns and some of these people are going to get hurt.

Seriously, no civilised country should ever have to turn live ammunition on their own citizens and I'd argue that doing so would be hugely counter-productive. It would utterly destroy the reputation of England internationally. It would be brought down to the level that Syria and Gaddafi's Libya currently enjoy. It could also possibly make the violence much worse, live fire certainly didn't fix Gaddafi's problem. Open up with live fire and you'll also simultaneously have peaceful protests of people who want the live fire to stop. The two will inevitably get mixed up and then you have a very severe problem.

Tear gas, water cannons, batons, whatever you like but please keep it non-lethal. I know there are rioters who are bent on anarchy and murder but dishing out vast quantities of violence and bloodshed in return is not going to solve the problem, or even if it does, it will create worse ones. Please guys, du calme. :-/
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wow this has rilly taken of i agree 100% to almost every thing thats been said i think every one of those looters and rioters should be locked up if there's not enough room then make room bring back the death penalty for murderers and pedos rivise the prison sistim so people do things to benifit the country while locked up and they only get enough to survive like slaves in skaven sociaty but treated ever so slightly better if thay refuse to work while in prison kill theam and throw theare body's to the dogs only good law abideing citizans should get rights! only law abideing citizans should be free! :KA-BOOM: rant over


mutate: i think i may have over reacted thare the only people who should be exacuted are murderers and pedos i mean the part about working while in prison tho
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Desperate times call for desperate measures.

Give Cameron & Clegg to the rioters. That should stop it. Or at least make it more entertaining.
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lol yeah but if thay start takeing freedom from every one (through curfews esc.) then i am starting a rebelion and takeing over the contrey i could run it beter any way.
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Freedom, what freedom? :P Though I fear a rebellion could well make things worse if they do remove more freedoms.
The volume of CCTV images they managed to collect did worry me somewhat, 1984 anyone?
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Don't worry Ratty all those images will be gone soon. Well by gone I mean left on a train. :P

CCTV doesn’t worry me. The government already have my image after the fees protests and they haven’t (to my knowledge) done anything with it.
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Sorry to be out of the loop, but what are they even rioting over?
I'm all for freedom of expression, but you don't need to riot!
I have friends in the UK who live RIGHT BY the riots and I would hate to see the, get hurt over this (luckily they haven't.)
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The Police shot a guy who was armed. This then led to the mass riotings and lootings, many obviously seeing it as a chance to loot or fight against the law. Well that's it basically.
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Finance crisis --> Unemployment --> Poverty --> Frustration

Frustration + Police Shooting = Riots
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riots+d*ck heads in power = messed up country



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