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2250 Combat tourny list; CC themed, opinions pls
Topic Started: 21st January 2011 - 05:57 AM (294 Views)
Zadrin


In a 3 game tourny, just looking for ideas on improving this as an all comers list. Its themed as a Combat list. Also, I have no model to use as a A bomb.

Odds are i will be playing DEs, Mortal Choas, and VC's But not 100% on that.

Warlord and BSB join giant unit of rats, warlocks join the Slaves.

2250 Pts - Skaven Roster

Total Roster Cost: 2249

Warlord
1 Warlord,
1 War-Litter,
1 Weeping Blade,
1 Dragonhelm,
1 Shadow Magnet Trinket,
1 Potion of Strength,

Chieftain
1 Chieftain (Battle Standard Bearer),
1 Talisman of Preservation, 45 pts

Warlock Engineer
1 Warlock Engineer, Level 1 Wizard
1 Warplock Pistol,
1 Warp-Energy Condenser,

Warlock Engineer
1 Warlock Engineer, Level 1 Wizard
1 Doomrocket,

Clanrats
85 Clanrats, Musician + Standard Bearer
Clawleader,
Doom-Flayer Weapon Team,

Skavenslaves
39 Skavenslaves, Musician

Skavenslaves
39 Skavenslaves, Musician

Stormvermin
30 Stormvermin, Musician Mus + Standard Bearer
1 Storm Banner,

Gutter Runners
6 Gutter Runners, Sling + Poisoned Attacks

Gutter Runners
6 Gutter Runners, Sling + Poisoned Attacks

Rat Ogres
9 Rat Ogres,
1 Master-Bred Rat Ogre,
6 Packmaster,

Doomwheel

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anthem0x
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Clan Eshin Musician
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Rat Ogres
9 Rat Ogres,
1 Master-Bred Rat Ogre,
6 Packmaster,


You can have a max of 1 PM per 2 Rogres.

That unit of 85 clannies is going to cause so panic, lol. I'd like to see the look on someone's face seeing that deployed.

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The early bird may get the worm, but it's the second mouse that gets the cheese.
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Nagass


I'm not sure but per the FAQ, you can have 1 PM + (1 PM per 2 RO)

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p 7/8

Q. Can I take a unit consisting of 2 Rat Ogres and 2 Packmasters
when I pick an army? (p104)
A. Yes.
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chiaroscuros
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Couple thoughts... Skaven are strongest in magic and shooting but you have almost completely cut out both. It is a gutsy move and yet I am not seeing a hugely different list... I guess I was expecting half a dozen chieftains or a couple warlords or three units of plague monks or...

I think you have saved a few points losing magic and shooting but not really used those points to make a dramatic difference in the list.

Without spending a lot more points, I think you would be better served with a naked grey seer instead of this boosted warlock.

Have you tried swapping out the gutter runners for cannons (offensive vs defensive)?

But I will stop trying to talk you into putting magic and shooting back in. So lets assume that you want to handicap yourself. Okay, here are some suggestions to make this better.

If you are going to take 85 clanrats, why not take skaven brew? It is only going to cost you 1/2 point per model.... Maybe add a magic standard too?

And if you are putting the general and BSB in the big clanrat unit, you might want to give the unit MR3 since that is what is most likely to destroy it.

Where do you think you will cut the points to swap out the doomwheel for the HPA (once you get the model)? Have you considered taking two?

Write up some reports after you have given it a test run! I am always interested in combat oriented lists.
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Zadrin


hey, thanks for the responses so far.

Sorry to disappoint with the lack of plague monks, but i hate their fluff, so i refuse to use them... And i dont like spamming characters. Rank and file is where its at. Yes, i do realize that skaven magic and shooting are very cheap for what they can do. But, I have done the grey seer list of doom, and i find it boring.

this list is aimed more at points denial and objectives rather then win by turn 4. I am going to toss in the brew and magic resistance, they are a no brainer, not sure how i talked myself out of taking them. Also going to try the sacred banner, a 4+ ward on a 2 wound model is a bit pointless. Shaved off a caster warlock to do this.

Most tourneys i play in are 2500 points so it wont be a problem fitting in a A bomb. Its unlikely that i will take 2 aboms as i don't like the model, and two of them are worse then taking two hydras, i try to avoid the cheddar.

If i remember to bring my camera, i will have battle reports.

I will ask the tourney organizers (its GW run so I know I will get a logical response...) what they think of 6 PMs.

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