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Need some advice for upcoming battle
Topic Started: 13th January 2011 - 12:12 PM (206 Views)
voidla


Hello!

I'm in need of some advice in an upcoming battle against two friends. I'm an old Skaven player who just picked up Warhammer again after some years of break from it, and I'm going to continue with my Skaven.

The two friends I'm playing against have just picked up the game and, because I have my old stuff left, we will be playing a 2vs1-game. They are playing High Elves and Warriors of Chaos, and I know exactly what they have available, which makes me in a bit of an advantage ^_^

Anyways, the battle will be 1700pts.

I know that the High Elves player has exactly 2x IoB-boxes of models available, and the Warriors player has started from scratch with 50 Flailwielding Marauders, some Chaos Warriors (I think they're Khorne, and have AHW) and to top it off a regular Chaos Hero. Other than that I know that the High Elf player likes his High Magic alot.

The things I have available are the following:

1 Warlord
1 Grey Seer on foot
2 Warlock Engineers
1 Skweel Gnawtooth
1 Queek Headtaker
2 Assassins
1 Plague Furnace

80 Skaven Slaves
54 Clanrats with Spears
37 Clanrats with Hand Weapons
2 Poisoned Wind Mortars
3 Warpfire Throwers
24 Plague Monks
7 Rat Ogres, 2 Packmasters, 2 Master Moulders
1 Doomwheel

I'm also fairly certain that I'll be picking up a box of a PCC/WLC before the battle.

I was thinking of maybe going the Grey Seer rout with Plague-spells i think (with 4+ Ward to begin with, maybe a Feedback scroll vs. the possible Archmage), and at least 1 Warlock Engineer for some Warp Lightning and Dispel Scroll.

I'm also thinking of using all of my Skaven Slaves (maybe two blocks of 40), to tar pit the Swordmasters and Chaos Warriors with.
Since I'm not really favored/equal in CC against anything, (but maybe the Marauders), I don't really know how many Clanrats I should be taking. I think I need at least one block to run my Grey Seer with.
When it comes to the Weapon teams I'm lost. Which is better vs them? Should I take any at all? Ellyrian Reavers might pick them out to easily...

I don't think it's worth it to take a Furnace when I only have 24 monks available. But maybe I can take the monks separate with the Plague Banner and go after the Marauders with them.
Other than that I think that I'm going to use the Doomwheel, and the PCC/WLC (which will probably become a WLC).

Since I'm not up against a lot of shooting other than the Sea Guard and Ellyrian Reavers a unit with the Storm Banner doesn't seem worth the points... Though I will be frustrated if they go for a Prince on a Griffon, but I think it's unlikely.

Need any advice you can give me since it's my first game, both with the new Skaven book and with the new rulebook!

Thx in advance!
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catandy
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Welcome back to the skaven ranks ^_^

I would adwise you to bring the plague wind mortars. His warrior will hate them and they are move and shoot.

With what you have you could field the following:

1 grey ser 4+ ward
1 lightly outfitted warlord (sword of might, dragonhelm, Iron course Icon
and shield?)
1 lvl1 Engineer energy condensor (maybe doomrocket?)
1 chieftain BSB, halberd, Obsidian xxx (mr3)
2x40 slaves +musician
2x25 CR with shields, full command and PWM
6 Rogres with 2 packmasters
Doomwheel
WLC

I don't fancy the monks without a furnace - but they might be fun.

And I would go for ruin with your grey seer - short range on plague spells and you don't want to get him anywhere near CC.

Basicly ignore his 40 marauders (they'll field that many I'm sure) - they will hurt you but are slow and when you can't run no more bury him in slaves :)

The mr 3 on your BSB will give the whole unit mr3 which comes in handy (a 4+ward vs wounds from spells). Keep the BSB and general within 12" of your slaves and they will hold pretty much anything for quite some time.

Both the doomwheel and WLC will take out a prince on a griffon...basicly aim the cannon 8" in front of what you want to hit vs monsters (or 12 away from where you want the template to land vs infantry).

Oh and just send that doomwhell forward.....the further away from you the better:)

Thats pretty much my 5 cents - first thing to buy/convert would be gutter runners you'll come to love them :bow:

Well good luck fellow rat!

As the Old Greyseer was lying on his deathbed he passed on a few words of wisdom to his son:

- War is not about winning son, its about your opponents losing more than you do.

- But dad, if your opponents lose more than you do, you still win the battle, so its all the same, isn't it?

- You are so young my son.....worthy opponents are on your side of the battlefield.....
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voidla


Thx for the suggestions, definately some stuff that I'll consider!

I'd forgot about a BSB, probably needed if the slaves are to hold ground :)

You're probably right about the Plague Monks to. There aren't enough of them to make any impact, and I don't think I'm going to use the Furnace, since around 1 Flames of the Phoenix and the furnace is almost stranded.

About the Mortars... Should I keep them up at the side of the other units or is it better to hide them behind units since they can fire indirectly with double scatter, to get the hard cover?
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I'm a huge fan of the Warpfire Thrower. IMO, its the best weapon team we have. To me, forcing an opponent to take a leadership test on just one wound is substantial. FLaming attacks with S5 means it'll be layin down some hurt.
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PWM are great against high toughness and high armor units the best thing to do with them is if no shooters around plant it in the open and fire into the core of a unit so scatter isnt bad and if around shooters place it right behind it parent untit and use their line of sight (if within 3")
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