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Topic Started: 10th January 2011 - 12:37 PM (1,014 Views)
Plague Priest Phebrickid
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Jan 10 2011, 03:11 PM
Wait, hold on a sec. I think they may have changed the Steadfast rules before in the FAQ. Take a look at the FAQ for P.54 Steadfast. It says to change the paragraph to:

Page 54 – Steadfast
Change the first paragraph to “If a defeated unit has more
ranks than its enemy, it takes a Break test without applying the
difference in the combat result scores.” Change the fourth
paragraph to “Steadfast units don’t apply the difference in
combat result scores to Break tests.”

Nothing about unmodified Ld. I think that's just for things like Spirit Leech.

Sigh of relief? Someone second me on this?

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@Chitterfitz - If you'd read this, they simply changed steadfast as well, so a big relief there, no chance of disputes!
but it seems a stupid, confusin way of doing it IMO
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Jan 10 2011, 08:49 PM
well, a unit of slaves deployed 10 deep that is steadfast that has no other characters with them and is out of range of general etc. will be Ld 5 but you tend to field them with engineers, in range of general etc.

(I think!  :unsure: )

All correct :) By themselves they're Ld5, with an engineer they're Ld8, in range of a Ld7 General they're Ld10 (and most likely steadfast in all cases with 10 ranks :P )
1.) Can you explain how can engineer give slaves LD8?
2.) If i put a hero in slave unit i cannot shoot on them any more?
3.) Do slaves flee or break, or the just do D3 S3 hits to to all unit on D6?
4.) Does Pawleader give any LD bonus to slaves?
5.) I really don't know how can slaves come to LD10? if they have LD2, and gain +3 rank bonus, which is 5 and led by chiftain the come to LD of 6 and if they also 12 form general they come to LD of 7 MAX, right?
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Plague Priest Phebrickid
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1.) Ld 5 engineer +3 = 8
2.) no, not if theres a hero
3.) they just do the hits then all disappear along with any joined heroes
4.) no
5.) you take the highest Ld in the unit then add a maximum +3, when it comes to the general you take his BASE Ld then add your own ranks to a maximum +3
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Jan 10 2011, 09:22 PM
1.) Ld 5 engineer +3 = 8
2.) no, not if theres a hero
3.) they just do the hits then all disappear along with any joined heroes
4.) no
5.) you take the highest Ld in the unit then add a maximum +3, when it comes to the general you take his BASE Ld then add your own ranks to a maximum +3

I see so the unit takes the highes LD in the unit, in this case from warlock engineer which is only 15 points, good plan. This is very nice info for beginner like me :)
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Chitterfitz
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I undertand all the changes except that we can't use SiN against things like spell effects and such. The main rulebook says we can't but ours says we can and our book overrides the main book everytime.
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Chitterfitz
Jan 10 2011, 09:56 PM
I undertand all the changes except that we can't use SiN against things like spell effects and such. The main rulebook says we can't but ours says we can and our book overrides the main book everytime.

I think the main argument is that SiN states leadership tests whereas things like spirit leech and the lizzies blade aren't tests but comparisons between stats.
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Jan 10 2011, 02:36 PM
You should read the hole FAQ before going OMG because it says this:

Page 60 – Steadfast
Change “[...]can use its unmodified Leadership[...]” to
“[...]doesn’t apply the difference in combat result scores[...]”.
Change both references to “[...] any enemy units [...]” to “[...]
all enemy units [...]”.

Steadfast has nothing to do with unmodified Leadership any more.

This is simply for things like the lizard man blade that state you should use your own leadership for the test.

I will re quote myself since no1 seems to bother reading it the first time. :P
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