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2000 Moulder/Skyre list; This list needs some help :)
Topic Started: 6th January 2011 - 11:59 PM (520 Views)
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Hello UE,

The following list was my original list. There is a revised list a few posts down

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This is my first army list, and I really need some help. As you can well see, I am 91 points over my limit. Please let me know what is worthless/illegal/etc in my army so I can start revising it to make it a bit more competitive. Please let me know your personal experiences as well! I'd really like to make a solid list before i buy the rest of the units I need.

Thank you!

The format may be a little odd to read, so I'll explain it with my first few unit (this case my lord and heroes)
     
    
Lord   250  <---Total point cost
     
1 Skaven Warlord    <-- Unit
:Rat Ogre Bonebreaker  <---Upgrades  
:Other Trickster's Shard      
:Enchanted Shield                  
:Talisman of Perservation                  
:Sword of Anti-Heroes     
     
     
Heroes   273  <--- Total point cost for both Heroes
     
1 Warlock Engineer                       <----Unit
:Level 2 Wizard             <- Upgrades
:Warplock Pistol                         
:DoomRocket    
:Warp-Energy Condenser
   158           <--- Point cost for Unit+Upgrades
     
1 Warlock Engineer   
:Level 1 Wizard   
:Dispell Scroll    
:Dispell Scroll    
   115  
     
     
Core   754
     
26 Clanrats
:Full Command   
:Shields   
:Spears    
:WarpFire Thrower
   220  
     
26 Clanrats
:Full Command
:Shields    
:DoomFlayer
   192  
     
26 Clanrats
:Full Command  
:Shields    
:DoomFlayer
   192  
     
20 Slaves   
   40  
     
20 Slaves    
   40  
     
18 Gaint Rats    
2 Packmaster
   70  
     
     
Special    384 
     
6 Gutter Runners    
:Slings   
:Poisoned Attacks
   108  
     
4 Rat Ogres    <--- Lord goes in here
2 Packmasters    
   176  
     
5 Warplock Jezzails
   100  
     
     
Rare   490
     
1 Warp Lightning Cannon
   90  
     
1 Doom Wheel  
   150  
     
1 Hell Pit Abomination    
:Warpstone Spikes
   250  

Total Points     2151


--MUTATE-- Oh jeez. I forgot that the Rats have a full command in them. Makes this list even a bit more over the top.
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Briefly:
Can't have 2 dispel scrolls any more,
Merge the slaves to a 40 man unit,
Can't see the Jezzails or Giant rats doing much at these unit sizes at this points size.
Despite my fondness for them, you may want to drop your warlock's pistol too.
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Jazzails often perform worse than poison wind globadiers so I would swap the points to that giant rats can be useful if you can get them in a double charge and remove the ranks of the enemy.
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To add to what others have said I am not a big fan of bonebreaker because your lord losses his Look Out Sir! save. You also need a BSB because we are rats and that is and auto take. Also pretty sure doomrocket + WLC takes up his max mpoints for gear.

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Jan 7 2011, 01:31 AM
To add to what others have said I am not a big fan of bonebreaker because your lord losses his Look Out Sir! save. You also need a BSB because we are rats and that is and auto take. Also pretty sure doomrocket + WLC takes up his max mpoints for gear.

Warlord *shrug*

BsB agreed

The warp pistel can always be taken. it's a warlock specific upgrade

THE OTHER WARLOCK however, cannot have 2 dispel scrolls via 8th edition
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How well would this list fare if I took out the HPA, and added in 5 more Jezzails and have 24 points to still throw around? I would like to keep the HPA in this list, but I would like a jezzail force strong enough to injure some calvary. What should I cut from this list? Would 10 Jezzails in a 2k list be to cheesy? I took out the WLC. Should I put it back in? I feel like my list isn't shooty enough...

Here is a revised list. Again, all suggestions are welcome :)


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Total Points     1912                  
                        
Lord   220  <---- Has thirty points of equipment available.                 
                        
1 Skaven Warlord                       
:Rat Ogre Bonebreaker                       
:Other Trickster's Shard                       
:Enchanted Shield                       
:Talisman of Perservation                       
   220                     
                        
                        
Heroes   248 12.77034                   
                        
1 Warlock Engineer                       
:Level 2 Wizard                       
:Warplock Pistol                       
:DoomRocket                       
:Warp-Energy Condenser                       
   158                     
                        
1 Skaven Chieftan                       
:Battle Standard Bearer                       
:Shield                       
   72                     
                        
1 Warlock Engineer                       
:Level 1 Wiz                       
:Dispell Scroll                       
   90                     
                        
Core   760 39.13491                   
                        
30 Clanrats                       
:Musician+Standard                       
:Shields                       
                        
:WarpFire Thrower                       
   225                     
                        
30 Clanrats                       
:Musician+Standard                       
:Shields                       
:Plague Wind Mortar                       
   220                     
                        
30 Clanrats    <------ Should I add a weapon team?                 
:Musician+Standard                       
:Shields                       
                        
   155                     
                        
40 Slaves                      
   80                     
                        
40 Slaves                       
   80                     
                        
                        
                        
Special    284 14.6241                   
                        
6 Gutter Runners                       
:Slings                       
:Poisoned Attacks                       
   108                     
                        
4 Rat Ogres                       
2 Packmasters                       
   176                     
                                        
                        
Rare  400 20.59732                   
                        
                                                                  
1 Doom Wheel 150                      
   150                     
                        
1 Hell Pit Abomination                      
:Warpstone Spikes                     
   250
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Would my list become to broken (cheesy) if I dropped a slave and added back in the WLC? Another option I could have is to throw in some giant rat packs. Anyone have comments on the newer list?
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