| 2000pt Skaven, please help | ||
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| Tweet Topic Started: 5th January 2011 - 10:26 PM (497 Views) | ||
| Trevor Drake | 5th January 2011 - 10:26 PM Post #1 | |
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Clanrat
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I would love some opinions, I was given some skaven for christmas, and purchased the Island of Blood for my birthday earlier this week, and decided to give a go at making a list. My first game (ever) will be next Friday, and I would love opinions, as well as more information and tips/pointers. Lords: Grey Seer -470 -Bell, Skalm Heroes: Cheiftan BSB - 124 Halberd, Shield, Storm Banner Priest -310 -Furnace, LVL2, Dispel Scroll Warlock Enineer -53 -Warplock Pistol, Doomrocket Core: Clanrats(30) -155 HW/SH, Full Command Clanrats(30) -155 HW/SH, Full Command Clanrats(40) -200 HW/SH, Full Command *pushes bell* Skavenslaves(40) -82 -Musician Special: Plague Monks(35) -300 -Full Command, Plague Banner Rare: Doomwheel -150 *can replace bell and skalm for a HPA* 1999/2000 I can substitute the Bell and Skalm for a HPA., which is right at 235 points, I would just have to find a large model to proxy until I get it. |
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Please note that, per my signature, I am looking to procure: - Island of Blood Skaven Set -Skaven Clanrat/Slaves -Skaven Machinery (cannons, Doomwheels, ect) - plastic poisoned wind mortar or warp fire throwers - 10 jezzails I am looking to trade/sell: - 1 full high elf Island of Blood set - 1 sealed Warriors of Chaos Batallion - Warriors still on Sprue -20 Marauders w/ Flails/Great Weapon counts-as | ||
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| Kritch Wormtail | 5th January 2011 - 10:39 PM Post #2 | |
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Clanrat
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very nice, i see some great potential, be sure to engage the enemy units with the slaves or the anvil block of 40 clanrats (put the bsb in that unit) and then impact hit the side oof that unit with the bell and then blast with magic. be sure not to expose the bells flanks to the enemy though. nice list, kritch |
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| reddogfish77 | 6th January 2011 - 01:20 AM Post #3 | |
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make the change... and find the 15 points to give him spikes... run your HPA next to your furance unit to make sure you break your oppenets units in one turn... giving you more time to wreak havoc amongst his other units. |
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| SkavenDan | 6th January 2011 - 01:43 AM Post #4 | |
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Doomwheel Fanatic
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Bell trumps abomb every time in my book. I was surprised now reasonable your list was. Only thing that concerns me is no weapons teams? Usually a must. | |
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| Trevor Drake | 6th January 2011 - 02:52 AM Post #5 | |
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Thanks? Don't really know how it was 'reasonable' heh, but with the points invested in larger core units, a large unit to carry the bell (although you have metioned that the cheiftan with standard should be in the 40-rat clanrat unit?), the monks to carry the bell, a Doomwheel, just ran short on points.I am sure if I ran characters naked I could figure a way to put a couple in, granted I only own two (from the IoB set). If I wanted to I could have the 2 rat ogres and about 20 random giant rats in here (the random rats you find on the sprews just thrown on bases) but...not a big fan of the Clan Moulder stuff. Do you mind elaborating on the 'reasonable' comment Dan? |
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Please note that, per my signature, I am looking to procure: - Island of Blood Skaven Set -Skaven Clanrat/Slaves -Skaven Machinery (cannons, Doomwheels, ect) - plastic poisoned wind mortar or warp fire throwers - 10 jezzails I am looking to trade/sell: - 1 full high elf Island of Blood set - 1 sealed Warriors of Chaos Batallion - Warriors still on Sprue -20 Marauders w/ Flails/Great Weapon counts-as | ||
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| Kritch Wormtail | 6th January 2011 - 09:41 AM Post #6 | |
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the bsb in the 40 block of clanrats provides a brick wall, just make it 5 * 8. and you have steadfast and re roll on all leadership, this allows you to lock the enemy in combat and flank with an abomb or bell/furnace. however if you had weapon teams you could set up a block of slaves with bsb, and shoot on to the enemy unit with say a wfp because slaves allow you to do that. | |
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| Trevor Drake | 7th January 2011 - 12:36 PM Post #7 | |
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I worked a bit with Dan, and came up with a different twist, lets see how it came out. Lords: Grey Seer: 470 -Screaming Bell -Skalm (joins 30-rat Clanrats) Heroes: Cheiftan: 122 -Shield -Battle Standard Bearer -Storm Banner (joins Clanrat Brick) Plague Priest: 125 -Dispel Scroll (joins Plague Monks) Warlock Engineer: 45 -Doomrocket (joins Slaves) Warlock Engineer: 65 -lvl1 (joins other 30-rat Clanrats) Core: Clanrats(30+2): 220 -Hand Weapon -Shield -Full Command -Poisoned Wind Mortar Clanrats(30+2): 220 -Hand Weapon -Shield -Full Command -Poisoned Wind Mortar Clanrats(40): 200 -Hand Weapon -Shield -Full Command Skavenslaves(40): 82 -Musician Special: Plague Monks(35): 300 -Full Command -Plague Banner Rare: Doomwheel: 150 1999/2000 |
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Please note that, per my signature, I am looking to procure: - Island of Blood Skaven Set -Skaven Clanrat/Slaves -Skaven Machinery (cannons, Doomwheels, ect) - plastic poisoned wind mortar or warp fire throwers - 10 jezzails I am looking to trade/sell: - 1 full high elf Island of Blood set - 1 sealed Warriors of Chaos Batallion - Warriors still on Sprue -20 Marauders w/ Flails/Great Weapon counts-as | ||
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| Scarr, Reincarnated | 7th January 2011 - 01:10 PM Post #8 | |
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11th creator of the Skaven Achievements. Binder of IceAc.
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Welcome Trevor! Your list looks very well, indeed. A standard winning list scarr |
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The Pox on you, AND your kind! Player of games, watcher of games, gamer of plays.
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| anthem0x | 7th January 2011 - 02:44 PM Post #9 | |
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Clan Eshin Musician
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Your army looks strong, but lacks meat-shields. If I may make a kind suggestion, perhaps reduce the unit of 40 clanrats to 30. Use the extra 40ish points for another unit of 20 slaves. Break the unit of 40 slaves into two units of 20 and viola, 3 meat-shields so your army doesn't take as much cross-fire on its way to crushing your enemies. Also very helpful for baiting and luring, as a more expensive unit can ill-afford to be used as such. | |
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| SkavenDan | 7th January 2011 - 04:19 PM Post #10 | |
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Doomwheel Fanatic
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meat-shields suck. Might as well make them bigger to get the leadership bonus. | |
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| Trevor Drake | 7th January 2011 - 07:26 PM Post #11 | |
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Thanks Scarr, think I have seen you somewhere before ![]() I am just more hesitant because I would prefer the slaves to stick around and to hide a warlock in. I would hate to split them up and be just one bad diceroll away from losing one or even all my squads of slaves, rather than have a brick that can tie people up and allow my hammers to maneuver around to strike the sides or flanks. |
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Please note that, per my signature, I am looking to procure: - Island of Blood Skaven Set -Skaven Clanrat/Slaves -Skaven Machinery (cannons, Doomwheels, ect) - plastic poisoned wind mortar or warp fire throwers - 10 jezzails I am looking to trade/sell: - 1 full high elf Island of Blood set - 1 sealed Warriors of Chaos Batallion - Warriors still on Sprue -20 Marauders w/ Flails/Great Weapon counts-as | ||
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| Leonardas | 7th January 2011 - 07:49 PM Post #12 | |
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Clanrat
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Seems rude not to give the plague priest a flail... | |
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| Trevor Drake | 7th January 2011 - 07:55 PM Post #13 | |
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I may fiddle around and find the points, but I have put just about everything I can fit into this army as far as the points go if you know what I mean. | |
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Please note that, per my signature, I am looking to procure: - Island of Blood Skaven Set -Skaven Clanrat/Slaves -Skaven Machinery (cannons, Doomwheels, ect) - plastic poisoned wind mortar or warp fire throwers - 10 jezzails I am looking to trade/sell: - 1 full high elf Island of Blood set - 1 sealed Warriors of Chaos Batallion - Warriors still on Sprue -20 Marauders w/ Flails/Great Weapon counts-as | ||
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| SkavenDan | 8th January 2011 - 02:48 AM Post #14 | |
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Doomwheel Fanatic
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Flails are ok but depends how fast your opponent breaks. |
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