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Painting Vows; Jan 2011
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Painting Vows January 2011!

[Reference List for Vow Values]

Buying
0 vvps for buying things. Its not really doing anything, but you can put them in your vows if you want to have a more complete 'to do' list.

Assembling
1vvp (vow value point) for each man sized model.
2vvps for each ogre sized model on large bases, (same for tyranid warrior size models).
5vvps for tanks, or tank sized models (ie - carnifexes and other monstrous creatures)

NB - Forgeworld models will vary a lot in size so ask a P&H team member before deciding on a value for these. ^_^

Painting
2vvps for man-sized models.
4vvps for man-sized models on a cavalry base.
5vvps for ogre size models (on large bases - same for 40K) or characters.
10vvps for tanks and tank sized models and monstrous creatures for 40K.

NB - Again for Forgeworld stuff, let us know what it is and we'll decide on a value for you! ^_^

Basing
1vvp for each model based.

Conversions/Greenstuff
1vvp for a small conversion/greenstuff job.
2vvps for a large conversion/greenstuff job.
4vvps for an extremely large conversion/greenstuff job.

You'll have to be truthful about these. We can't really rate these individually, so tell the truth otherwise your just lying to yourself. :P

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Vow Ratings > PRS Points

This is the number of vvps you need to accumulate to achieve each vow rank (and also the PRS points achieved per vow rank achieved)

Easy = 10-30vvps (1 PRS point)
Medium = 31-70vvps (2 PRS points)
Hard = 71-100vvps (3 PRS points)
Insane = 101-130vvps (5 PRS points)
Completely Insane = 131-199vvps (8 PRS points)
Pigmental = 200+ vvps (12 PRS points)

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[CODE Form to Fill Out]

Copy and paste this form into a post and fill in what you vow to do and work out your vvps and vow rating.

Post that into your post twice. The second time put [ CODE ] [ /CODE ] tags around it, so we can just copy and paste this into the inital post, without having to mutate each post individually (which takes ages).

This makes life a lot easier for us when it comes to working the new painting vows system and ratings and will stop arguments, as you can work out exactly what rating your vows will get! ^_^

Replace things in CAPS with the required information.

Remove any areas you don't use.

Make sure you calculate the vvps and exchange the x in each set of brackets with the number you get per item.

Feel free to add other areas such as Buy; if you want to.

If you're doing the vows but NOT signed up for the PRS system, then post the lists, but just leave out the total points and vow rating.

Code:
 
[b]NAME - (VOW RATING)[/b]

[b]Assemble;[/b]
ITEM (x vvps) -
ITEM 2 (x vvps) -
ETC

[b]Conversion/Greenstuff;[/b]
ITEM (x vvps) -
ETC

[b]Paint;[/b]
ITEM (x vvps) -
ITEM 2 (x vvps) -
ETC

[b]Base;[/b]
ITEM (x vvps) -
ETC

[b][i]Total [color=red]vvps[/color] = POINTS[/i][/b]
[b][i]Total completed [color=green]vvps[/color] = POINTS[/i][/b]


Example

Scarfester - (medium)

Assemble;
10 clanrats (10 vvps) -
2 rat ogres (4 vvps) -

Paint;
10 clanrats (20 vvps) - Completed!
2 rat ogres (10 vvps) -
1 ratling gun (4 vvps) -

Base;
10 clanrats (10 vvps) -
2 rat ogres (2 vvps) -
1 ratling gun (1 vvps) -

Total vvps = 61
Total completed vvps = 20 POINTS

Code:
 
[b]Scarfester - (medium)[/b]

[b]Assemble;[/b]
10 clanrats (10 vvps) -
2 rat ogres (4 vvps) -

[b]Paint;[/b]
10 clanrats (20 vvps) - [color=red]Completed![/color]
2 rat ogres (10 vvps) -
1 ratling gun (4 vvps) -

[b]Base;[/b]
10 clanrats (10 vvps) -
2 rat ogres (2 vvps) -
1 ratling gun (1 vvps) -

[b][i]Total [color=red]vvps[/color] = 61[/i][/b]
[b][i]Total completed [color=green]vvps[/color] = 20 POINTS[/i][/b]


NB - Notice that there are 2 lists in this post, so that the second CODE form can be copy/pasted into the initial vows list easily by a member of the P&H team

Use -
Code:
 
[color=red]Completed![/color]

for each section you have completed!

For EACH update you post, post your updated CODE list, so its quick and easy for us to copy/paste into the vows list please.

We suggest that you keep a copy of your vows list saved on your desktop and update and save it as you go. That way you only have a small amount to update and then copy/paste each time you wish to update your vows.
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[Last Months Completed Vows!]
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The Vows!

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Aa7 - (Hard)

Assemble;
40x I.O.B Slave Rats (40 vvps) - completed
2x I.O.B Weapons Teams (2 vvps) - completed
15x Older edition Clan Rat Slaves (15 vvps) - completed
15x Nightrunners (15 vvps) - completed
3x Older edition Packmasters (3 vvps) - completed
2x Older edition Rat Ogres (4 vvps) - completed

Conversion/Greenstuff;
Old Hydra into and Abom (2 vvps) - completed

Paint/Base;
No real painting/basing, only spraying everything once assembled in black undercoat (0 vvps) - completed

Total 81 vvps = 3 POINTS
Total completed 81 vvps = 3 POINTS

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OLORIN THE ANCIENT - (Pigmental)

Assemble;
109 Clanrats (109 vvps) - Completed!
4 Weapon teams (8 vvps) - Completed!
4 Rat Ogres (8 vvps) - Completed!
7 Characters (7 vvps) - Completed!

Conversion/Greenstuff;
2 Rat Ogres (2 vvps) - Completed!

Paint;
35 Clanrats (70 vvps) -
2 Weapon teams (8 vvps) -
3 Characters (15 vvps) -

Base;
35 Clanrats (35 vvps) -
2 Weapon teams (2 vvps) -
3 Characters (3 vvps) -

Total 265 vvps = 132 POINTS
Total completed 132 vvps = 8 POINTS

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Scarfester - (Hard)

Assemble;
20 Guard (20vvps) - (10/20 done)
1 Sentinel (2 vvps) - Complete!
10 clanrats (10vvps) - (1/10 done)
3 IG mortar teams (6vvps) - Complete!

Convert
Assemble and magnetise all 6 sentinel weapons and sentinel itself (2vvps) - Complete!

Paint;
21 gaurdsmen (42 vvps) -

Base;
21 gaurdsmen (21 vvps) -

Total 103 vvps = 5 POINTS
Total completed 21vvps = 1 POINTS

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Tarendal - (Pigmental)

Assemble;
12 Rat Ogres IoB (24 vvps) - Completed!
40 Plague Monks (40 vvps) -
40 Clanrats/Slaves IoB (40 vvps) -

Paint;
40 Plague Monks (80 vvps) -
68 Clanrats/Slaves IoB (136 vvps) - 40/136

Base;
40 Plague Monks (40 vvps) - 10/40
40 Clanrats/Slaves IoB (40 vvps) -

Total vvps = 400 POINTS
Total completed vvps = 74 POINTS

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Trevor Drake - (Pigmental!)

Assemble:
100 Clanrats (60 are IoB) (100 vvps) - Complete
40 Slaves (40 vvps) - Complete
40 Plague Monks (40 vvps) - 10/40
Plague Priest(1 vvps) - Complete
2 Weaponteams (4 vvps) - Complete
Screaming Bell (5 vvps) - Complete
Doomwheel (5 vvps) -


Conversion/Greenstuff:
Convert Warlord from IoB with arm repositioning and remove haliberd, add stormvermin hand holding severed heads (1 vvps) - Complete
Make a warlock engineer from leftover Doomwheel and Stormvermin bits(1 vvps) -

Paint:
Start painting Clanrats, test paint schemes, try to paint 1 unit of 30 (60 vvps) -
ADDED: Paint Screaming Bell (15 vps) -

Base:
ITEM (x vvps) -
ETC

Total 202 vvps = 12 POINTS
Total completed 151 vvps = 8 POINTS

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Olorin the Ancient's Painting Vows

OLORIN THE ANCIENT - (Pigmental)

Assemble;
40 Clanrats (40 vvps) -
2 Weapon teams (4 vvps) -
2 Rat Ogres (4 vvps) -
3 Characters (3 vvps) -

Conversion/Greenstuff;
2 Rat Ogres (2 vvps) -

Paint;
40 Clanrats (80 vvps) -
2 Weapon teams (8 vvps) -
2 Rat Ogres (10 vvps) -
3 Characters (15 vvps) -

Base;
40 Clanrats (40 vvps) -
2 Weapon teams (2 vvps) -
2 Rat Ogres (2 vvps) -
3 Characters (3 vvps) -



Total vvps = 213 POINTS
Total completed vvps = 0 POINTS

Code:
 

[b]OLORIN THE ANCIENT - (Pigmental)[/b]

[b]Assemble;[/b]
40 Clanrats (40 vvps) -
2 Weapon teams (4 vvps) -
2 Rat Ogres (4 vvps) -
3 Characters (3 vvps) -

[b]Conversion/Greenstuff;[/b]
2 Rat Ogres (2 vvps) -

[b]Paint;[/b]
40 Clanrats (80 vvps) -
2 Weapon teams (8 vvps) -
2 Rat Ogres (10 vvps) -
3 Characters (15 vvps) -

[b]Base;[/b]
40 Clanrats (40 vvps) -
2 Weapon teams (2 vvps) -
2 Rat Ogres (2 vvps) -
3 Characters (3 vvps) -

[b][i]Total [color=red]vvps[/color] = 213 POINTS[/i][/b]
[B][i]Total completed [color=green]vvps[/color] = 0 POINTS[/i][/B]
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Okay so I haven't done much of anything for a while except paint two of the six rat ogres from my army which are in my army blog.

However one of the guys at my local gaming club is organising a large (approx 15,000pt per side) battle between the Skaven and Chaos at the end of January so I have to assemble some more models to make my up my addition to the Skaven side.

It was a good excuse to make me assemble and finish the old hydra I have been wanting to use as a Hellpit which is the hardest part of my vows this month.

Here are my vows;

Aa7 - (Hard)

Assemble;
40x I.O.B Slave Rats (40 vvps) -
2x I.O.B Weapons Teams (2 vvps) -
15x Older edition Clan Rat Slaves (15 vvps) -
15x Nightrunners (15 vvps) -
3x Older edition Packmasters (3 vvps) -
2x Older edition Rat Ogres (4 vvps) -

Conversion/Greenstuff;
Old Hydra into and Abom (2 vvps) -

Paint/Base;
No real painting/basing, only spraying everything once assembled in black undercoat (0 vvps)

Total vvps = 81 POINTS
Total completed vvps = 0 POINTS

and in code tags

Code:
 
[b]Aa7 - (Hard)[/b]

[b]Assemble;[/b]
40x I.O.B Slave Rats (40 vvps) -
2x I.O.B Weapons Teams (2 vvps) -
15x Older edition Clan Rat Slaves (15 vvps) -
15x Nightrunners (15 vvps) -
3x Older edition Packmasters (3 vvps) -
2x Older edition Rat Ogres (4 vvps) -

[b]Conversion/Greenstuff;[/b]
Old Hydra into and Abom (2 vvps) -

[b]Paint/Base;[/b]
No real painting/basing, only spraying everything once assembled in black undercoat (0 vvps)

[b][i]Total [color=red]vvps[/color] = 81 POINTS[/i][/b]
[b][i]Total completed [color=green]vvps[/color] = 0 POINTS[/i][/b]
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Vows updated! ~ Scar

I aim to get going on stuff tonight. Or possibly do the PRS update whilst listening to the cricket!
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update

Aa7 - (Hard)

Assemble;
40x I.O.B Slave Rats (40 vvps) - completed
2x I.O.B Weapons Teams (2 vvps) - completed
15x Older edition Clan Rat Slaves (15 vvps) -
15x Nightrunners (15 vvps) -
3x Older edition Packmasters (3 vvps) - completed
2x Older edition Rat Ogres (4 vvps) - completed

Conversion/Greenstuff;
Old Hydra into and Abom (2 vvps) -

Paint/Base;
No real painting/basing, only spraying everything once assembled in black undercoat (0 vvps)

Total vvps = 81 POINTS
Total completed vvps = 49 POINTS

and code:

Code:
 
[b]Aa7 - (Hard)[/b]

[b]Assemble;[/b]
40x I.O.B Slave Rats (40 vvps) - [color=red]completed[/color]
2x I.O.B Weapons Teams (2 vvps) - [color=red]completed[/color]
15x Older edition Clan Rat Slaves (15 vvps) -
15x Nightrunners (15 vvps) -
3x Older edition Packmasters (3 vvps) - [color=red]completed[/color]
2x Older edition Rat Ogres (4 vvps) - [color=red]completed[/color]

[b]Conversion/Greenstuff;[/b]
Old Hydra into and Abom (2 vvps) -

[b]Paint/Base;[/b]
No real painting/basing, only spraying everything once assembled in black undercoat (0 vvps)

[b][i]Total [color=red]vvps[/color] = 81 POINTS[/i][/b]
[b][i]Total completed [color=green]vvps[/color] = 49 POINTS[/i][/b]
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Vows updated! ~ Scar

I've added a few extras to my vows as well. Been assembling some mortar teams and an armoured sentinel. :)
My Guard are making a return at my local gaming club.
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I have a question: for the purpose of painting vows, what counts as completed basing? Unlike many people, I always glue sand to the bases of my figures after assembly but before priming. I then wait 24 hours, paint thinned glue on top of the sand to seal it (which I find essential to prevent the sand from rubbing off), and wait another 24 hours for the glue to dry completely. Then I spray prime. I wait another day, and then start painting, beginning with the bases.

I paint my bases first largely because this method allows me to zip through them in a way that's quick and easy. First I paint my sand brown (not necessary in the case of my Skaven, since I'm priming most of them with a brown spray primer) and then do three additional layers of drybrushing on the sand. Since the figure isn't painted yet, I can be sloppy with my drybrushing. I paint any individual rocks a little more meticulously (carefully drybrush gray on the top of the rock, leaving brown on the bottom, and then apply two or three highlights), and then use a flat brush to paint three solid coats on the rims of my bases. At this point, I finally get started painting my models. After a figure is finished and sealed, I sometimes, but not always, apply static grass to the base.

Since I don't like to apply static grass until after sealing, and I don't like to seal until after a figure is absolutely finished, and I'm a perfectionist who's never really satisfied with his own work and keeps tinkering, it can be a long time before I ever put the static grass on a "completed" figure; I have some models that have been waiting for their static grass for over five years, and I once won an in-store best painted army award for figures that I considered unfinished, and which still lacked their static grass.

So when is the basing complete? When the sand is glued in place, ready to be primed? (For me, that's what I think of as basing: when the basing material has been fully glued down, ready for painting.) When the bases are painted, even if the figures are not? Or when the final static grass, if used, is applied?
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I would say, for the purposes of this, the base is finished when the model is glued to it. It may not be finished to you but for 1vvps I think all thats expected is that a model is on the base. ;)

I'm reserving this spot till my skaven order comes in the mail. Hopefully it's before the month is over. I'm still painting the clanrats I started in Dec.
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Basing is completed when the base of your model is painted!
This usualy happens after the model on the base itself is painted, so your a little unusual in that you paint your bases before your actual model.

Either way it doesn't matter, as long as the base gets painted!

Clear enough?
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Basing is completed when the base of your model is painted!

Thanks for the ruling!
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Clanrat
I guess I should get started on this, as I am in the process of building my army and this could be fun!

Trevor Drake - (Completely Insane!)

Assemble:
ITEM 100 Clanrats (60 are IoB) (100 vvps) -
ITEM 40 Slaves (40 vvps) -
ITEM 40 Plague Monks (40 vvps) -
ITEM Plague Priest(1 vvps) -
ITEM 2 Weaponteams (4 vvps) -
ITEM Screaming Bell (5 vvps) -
ITEM Doomwheel (5 vvps) -


Conversion/Greenstuff:
ITEM Convert Warlord from IoB with arm repositioning and remove haliberd, add stormvermin hand holding severed heads (1 vvps) -
ITEM Make a warlock engineer from leftover Doomwheel and Stormvermin bits(1 vvps) -

Paint:
ITEM Start painting Clanrats, test paint schemes, try to paint 1 unit of 30 (60 vvps) -

Base:
ITEM (x vvps) -
ETC

Total 187 vvps = 8 POINTS
Total completed vvps = POINTS

Here is the code. I might be biting off more than I can chew, but we will have at it!

Code:
 

[b]Trevor Drake - (Completely Insane!)[/b]

[b]Assemble: [/b]
ITEM 100 Clanrats (60 are IoB) (100 vvps) -
ITEM 40 Slaves (40 vvps) -
ITEM 40 Plague Monks (40 vvps) -
ITEM Plague Priest(1 vvps) -
ITEM 2 Weaponteams (4 vvps) -
ITEM Screaming Bell (5 vvps) -
ITEM Doomwheel (5 vvps) -


[b]Conversion/Greenstuff: [/b]
ITEM Convert Warlord from IoB with arm repositioning and remove haliberd, add stormvermin hand holding severed heads (1 vvps) -
ITEM Make a warlock engineer from leftover Doomwheel and Stormvermin bits(1 vvps) -

[b]Paint: [/b]
ITEM Start painting Clanrats, test paint schemes, try to paint 1 unit of 30 (60 vvps) -

[b]Base: [/b]
ITEM (x vvps) -
ETC

[b][i]Total [color=red]187 vvps[/color] = 8 POINTS[/i][/b]
[b][i]Total completed [color=green]vvps[/color] = POINTS[/i][/b]
Please note that, per my signature, I am looking to procure:
- Island of Blood Skaven Set
-Skaven Clanrat/Slaves
-Skaven Machinery (cannons, Doomwheels, ect)
- plastic poisoned wind mortar or warp fire throwers
- 10 jezzails

I am looking to trade/sell:
- 1 full high elf Island of Blood set
- 1 sealed Warriors of Chaos Batallion
- Warriors still on Sprue
-20 Marauders w/ Flails/Great Weapon counts-as
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aa7
Stormvermin
This is all going to easy at the moment except I have to go back to work tomorrow so the Abom will be a slow process. Will get it done before the big game but only just I think.

Aa7 - (Hard)

Assemble;
40x I.O.B Slave Rats (40 vvps) - completed
2x I.O.B Weapons Teams (2 vvps) - completed
15x Older edition Clan Rat Slaves (15 vvps) - completed
15x Nightrunners (15 vvps) - completed
3x Older edition Packmasters (3 vvps) - completed
2x Older edition Rat Ogres (4 vvps) - completed

Conversion/Greenstuff;
Old Hydra into and Abom (2 vvps) - started

Paint/Base;
No real painting/basing, only spraying everything once assembled in black undercoat (0 vvps) - completed all excpect the Abom conversion

Total 81 vvps = 3 POINTS
Total completed 79 vvps = 3 POINTS

in code:
Code:
 
[b]Aa7 - (Hard)[/b]

[b]Assemble;[/b]
40x I.O.B Slave Rats (40 vvps) - [color=red]completed[/color]
2x I.O.B Weapons Teams (2 vvps) - [color=red]completed[/color]
15x Older edition Clan Rat Slaves (15 vvps) - [color=red]completed[/color]
15x Nightrunners (15 vvps) - [color=red]completed[/color]
3x Older edition Packmasters (3 vvps) - [color=red]completed[/color]
2x Older edition Rat Ogres (4 vvps) - [color=red]completed[/color]

[b]Conversion/Greenstuff;[/b]
Old Hydra into and Abom (2 vvps) - started

[b]Paint/Base;[/b]
No real painting/basing, only spraying everything once assembled in black undercoat (0 vvps) - completed all excpect the Abom conversion

[b][i]Total [color=red]81 vvps[/color] = 3 POINTS[/i][/b]
[b][i]Total completed [color=green]79 vvps[/color] = 3 POINTS[/i][/b]
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Painting Vows - Update

OLORIN THE ANCIENT - (Pigmental)

Assemble;
40 Clanrats (40 vvps) - Completed!
2 Weapon teams (4 vvps) - Completed!
2 Rat Ogres (4 vvps) - Completed!
3 Characters (3 vvps) - Completed!

Conversion/Greenstuff;
2 Rat Ogres (2 vvps) - Completed!

Paint;
40 Clanrats (80 vvps) -
2 Weapon teams (8 vvps) -
2 Rat Ogres (10 vvps) -
3 Characters (15 vvps) -

Base;
40 Clanrats (40 vvps) -
2 Weapon teams (2 vvps) -
2 Rat Ogres (2 vvps) -
3 Characters (3 vvps) -

Total vvps = 213 POINTS
Total completed vvps = 53 POINTS

Code:
 
[COLOR=red][SIZE=5][B]Painting Vows - Update[/B] [/COLOR][/SIZE]

[b]OLORIN THE ANCIENT - (Pigmental)[/b]

[b]Assemble;[/b]
40 Clanrats (40 vvps) - [color=red]Completed![/color]
2 Weapon teams (4 vvps) - [color=red]Completed![/color]
2 Rat Ogres (4 vvps) - [color=red]Completed![/color]
3 Characters (3 vvps) - [color=red]Completed![/color]

[b]Conversion/Greenstuff;[/b]
2 Rat Ogres (2 vvps) - [color=red]Completed![/color]

[b]Paint;[/b]
40 Clanrats (80 vvps) -
2 Weapon teams (8 vvps) -
2 Rat Ogres (10 vvps) -
3 Characters (15 vvps) -

[b]Base;[/b]
40 Clanrats (40 vvps) -
2 Weapon teams (2 vvps) -
2 Rat Ogres (2 vvps) -
3 Characters (3 vvps) -

[b][i]Total [color=red]vvps[/color] = 213 POINTS[/i][/b]
[B][i]Total completed [color=green]vvps[/color] = 53 POINTS[/i][/B]
- Olorin the Ancient
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Vows updated! ~ Scar

aa7 and Olorin - Well done guys. Great work! :)

Trevor - Welcone to the site. Nice to see a new guy getting involved straight away.

I've got some more stuff added to my vows. I've got my sentinel assembled and got all the weapons assembled for it as well. Just need to magnetise it all now. Can't find the right sized drill bit at the moment.
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