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whats the biggest single unit you have fielded?
Topic Started: 16th November 2010 - 11:53 AM (863 Views)
Hardrainfalling
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Chieftain
okay whats the biggest single unit of clan rats or slaves you have placed on the table ? how did it do?

also if i placed a 200 strong slave unit and it was charged by several enemies at once do they total all there ranks for steadfast or just the unit with the most ranks ? do they get bonuses for every banner?
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Scurrilous
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Rank bonus only goes up to 3. They can take it from ultiple units (say 4 units all had an extra rank, they'd have 4 ranks, but could only have a rank bonus of 3).

I've fielded units of 40 but that's not really very huge. I'm still new though.
Tournemant results to date:
vs Vampire Counts: 1 victory
vs Dwarves: 1 victory
vs Daemons: 1 Draw
vs Brettonians: 1 draw, 1 loss
vs Skaven: 1 victory
vs Lizardmen: 1 victory
vs Dark Elves: 1 loss
vs High Elves: 1 loss
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Atropos
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50 slaves with musician. They work quite well for me and I field multiple units of them.
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Hardrainfalling
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Chieftain
lets say in a moment of insanity i field a 200 strong slave unit 10 wide and 20 deep and this is engaged by several units and it breaks do all the units that are engaged take exploding slave damage?
"I am always surprised when people complain a Skaven Army is cheesy. what do they expect from an Army of Rodents"
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Scurrilous
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Any unit within D6". Anything in combat is going to be within that. But what I have learned is that you would have a maximum of 22 strength 2 hits on those units. Strength 2 hits, for me, have rarely done anything reliably, with the low-strength and many armour saves. You would be throwing away 400~ points to inflict a few wounds to however many units they'll put against you. Likely, they'll use 1 or 2 only units to tie it up, knowing they'll be scoring a nice load of points when it eventually goes. Oh and you have to keep your general away from it otherwise they'll be using his leadership and won't explode.

You would be far better off breaking it up into many smaller units and using those to tie up his units and hold them in place while you blast them with warpfire throwers and mortars and magic and so on. In my opinion anyway.

Of course, if you're doing it for the lulz, go right on noble rat :)
Tournemant results to date:
vs Vampire Counts: 1 victory
vs Dwarves: 1 victory
vs Daemons: 1 Draw
vs Brettonians: 1 draw, 1 loss
vs Skaven: 1 victory
vs Lizardmen: 1 victory
vs Dark Elves: 1 loss
vs High Elves: 1 loss
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Midnight_Fox
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Nov 16 2010, 07:14 AM
Rank bonus only goes up to 3. They can take it from ultiple units (say 4 units all had an extra rank, they'd have 4 ranks, but could only have a rank bonus of 3).

BRB disagrees with you. If in Multiple combats, you use the largest available rank bonus from a single unit, it specifically states that you DO NOT add them together. You can find this on pg. 59(IoB version):

Extra Ranks
Similarly, your side receives a combat result bonus based on the best rank bonus in the fight, not the total rank bonus.

It goes on to give an example of Goblins with 2 extra ranks and Trolls with 1, the end Rank bonus is 2 and you ignore the Trolls.
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ratwhowouldbeking
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My friends have been trying to convince me to field 70-slave units (10 file x 7 rank), but I much prefer 40 or 50. With massive units, it's just too easy to lose that all-important rank bonus (flank charges or fighting in forests).
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Clanseer Skabrius
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Biggest ever was a unit of 50 clanrats escorting a Screaming Bell.
I prefer to keep slave units small, and use them as fodder.
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Scurrilous
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Midnight_Fox
Nov 16 2010, 03:58 PM
Scurrilous
Nov 16 2010, 07:14 AM
Rank bonus only goes up to 3. They can take it from ultiple units (say 4 units all had an extra rank, they'd have 4 ranks, but could only have a rank bonus of 3).

BRB disagrees with you. If in Multiple combats, you use the largest available rank bonus from a single unit, it specifically states that you DO NOT add them together. You can find this on pg. 59(IoB version):

Extra Ranks
Similarly, your side receives a combat result bonus based on the best rank bonus in the fight, not the total rank bonus.

It goes on to give an example of Goblins with 2 extra ranks and Trolls with 1, the end Rank bonus is 2 and you ignore the Trolls.

My bad, you are correct.
Tournemant results to date:
vs Vampire Counts: 1 victory
vs Dwarves: 1 victory
vs Daemons: 1 Draw
vs Brettonians: 1 draw, 1 loss
vs Skaven: 1 victory
vs Lizardmen: 1 victory
vs Dark Elves: 1 loss
vs High Elves: 1 loss
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Skab
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Most I have used in one unit was 80 slaves and I found a smaller unit would of worked better, most I use now is 55
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skavenmatt
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we had a bunch of demo games when 8th edition was released, I used a unit of 100 slaves and a unit of 100 clanrats. They're great tarpits, but smaller units of clanrats would have worked better, the 100 slaves went on to completely destroy 40 orc arrer boyz, and 2 units of 25 night goblins at ard boyz, more than making up their points. If they ignore 100 slaves it'll bite em in the ass, if they engage it with any 1 unit it will at least keep them in place till you can melt em with warpfire.
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DNA Maniac
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my biggest unit ewer was a 10x10 giant rat unit.

Other wise 50 slaves or clanrats are more crowded then needed. And newer go out with horde rule. with some extra attacks like 11 ws2/3 s3 attacks we keep not killing anything so... and slaves make more damage when they breake.

D3S3 is better then they fight cuz of auto hits ;)
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Paricidas
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Pointswise: A fully decked out furnace with 40 monks.

Size-wise: 50 slaves with a grey prophet and a BSB in it.
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Makrar


Ive fielded a unit of 200 slaves in a 1000 pts.

It got it in combat with a hydra and harpies in the rear, 50 warriors and 20 blackguard in the front and didnt break at all during the game.

Opponent wasnt amused :D


Also took 2 units of 100 in 2500 points against lizardmen. They just dont die fast enough
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100 Slaves 10x10 spears.
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