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Finaly Starting Skaven in earnest
Topic Started: 20th August 2010 - 04:38 PM (565 Views)
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So last night, rushed and stressed from just quitting cigarettes and trying to find an unfamiliar bus stop in the dark, I happened to leave ALL of my Lizardmen on the bus. So unless I hear back from the lost & found it's skaven time.

So here's the questions I had before I go out and spend $500 (what I was going to buy a new computer with) on an army.

Slave unit sizes: I'm thinking 2 units at 5x10 and 2 at 5x6w/ spears. All have musicians and the 30 blocks are there to keep stuff off my flanks. Good sizes for units? Are the 30 not worth it?

Clan Rats: How big is a good size for these monsters? Hoard 'em up in 10x5s or keep 'em slim and long with 5x7s? Spears or no spears?

Same thing with Monks; How large a unit is effective and how large is too large?

Rat Ogres I'm planning on fielding in a unit of 6.

And have people found it to be tactically advantageous to field warlocks in with a body guard of 50 slaves?
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I'm looking for Dark Eldar to convert into DE. Also looking for bretonnia lances and halberds. If anyone has any they would be interested in trading PM me and we can work something out.


"And, most vivid of all, there was the dramatic epic of the rats––the scampering army of obscene vermin which had burst forth from the castle three months after the tragedy that doomed it to desertion––the lean, filthy, ravenous army which had swept all before it and devoured fowl, cats, dogs, hogs, sheep and even two hapless human beings before its fury was spent. Around that unforgettable rodent army a whole separate cycle of myths revolves, for it scattered among the village homes and brought curses and horrors in its train."

– The Rats In The Walls, H.P. Lovecraft
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Prekrasna
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First of all, sorry to hear about your Lizardmen. I really am. I've lost so much stuff on trains and buses that I feel your pain.

Now, onto the Skaven!

Give spears to the horde slaves;
Hitting in 4 ranks hurts, even if it's slaves.

If you want to keep thing off your flanks, shield and HW are a great option. 6+ save, 6+ Ward save.

I usually field a unit of 30 plague monks. Since they have no saves, they die fast (but kill faster!) - and you do not want to loose the rank bonus.

I usually field Clanrats in 5x6 with HW and shield and mainly use them for the Weapon Team and CR. It has worked great for me, although I have only played two battles in 8th. Wait for a second opinion!

I used Rat ogres for the first time in a long time today (played 1750 points). I used 4 of them, and they were great. I think a unit of 6 would be better, of course, but restricted for games 2250 and up.

Get two battalions (40 Plague monks, 80 Clanrats, 4 Rat Ogres, 12 Giant Rats), some Clanrats (about 80-100) and some weapon teams (WFT) and characters, and you're fit for your first 2000 points battle. A Warp Lightning Cannon would not be bad either (I love those, even though I'm getting very varied results).

If you're not very stressed, get Two battalions and IoB. Then you have all characters you need but your general, all Rogres you need, only need a WLC/Doomwheel/Other-fun-thingie.

That way, you get a well balanced army for approx. 350$. (105+105+99 (swap HE for Skaven if possible, otherwise you'll need two more clanrat boxes)+35 (Doomwheel or WLC)+15 (general)).

Good luck!
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i got the old battalion Box a while ago, but part of that is gone to, go figure. I was planning on getting the another battalion box and finding someone to split the IoB with (a kid at my game shop is trying out High Elves tomorrow and I'm hoping he likes 'em and I can talk him in to splitting the cost with me). The Battalion usually runs around $90 right?

As for rare choices I'm partial to Plagueclaw Catapult. They have yet to fail me in making a part of the enemy line run when I need them to.

And thanks for the price numbers, that sounds very do able.
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I'm looking for Dark Eldar to convert into DE. Also looking for bretonnia lances and halberds. If anyone has any they would be interested in trading PM me and we can work something out.


"And, most vivid of all, there was the dramatic epic of the rats––the scampering army of obscene vermin which had burst forth from the castle three months after the tragedy that doomed it to desertion––the lean, filthy, ravenous army which had swept all before it and devoured fowl, cats, dogs, hogs, sheep and even two hapless human beings before its fury was spent. Around that unforgettable rodent army a whole separate cycle of myths revolves, for it scattered among the village homes and brought curses and horrors in its train."

– The Rats In The Walls, H.P. Lovecraft
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Prekrasna
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Aug 20 2010, 05:16 PM
i got the old battalion Box a while ago, but part of that is gone to, go figure. I was planning on getting the another battalion box and finding someone to split the IoB with (a kid at my game shop is trying out High Elves tomorrow and I'm hoping he likes 'em and I can talk him in to splitting the cost with me). The Battalion usually runs around $90 right?

As for rare choices I'm partial to Plagueclaw Catapult. They have yet to fail me in making a part of the enemy line run when I need them to.

And thanks for the price numbers, that sounds very do able.

If you're creative - go for the PCC!

I haven't tried it out yet, unfortunately, that's the reason I did not bring it up.

I picked the prices from GW's homepage, however it is probably cheaper on other sites.
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Yea, I realized that there isn't a model for the PCC when I went looking for prices. Figured that 2 augmented Rock Lobbas would fit in nicely. And at my game store, since they just opened up and don't have everything in stock yet, they offer a 15% discount on orders for items that they do not carry. Using numbers off of the GW site I can pick up a 2250 for $440, which isn't too bad. Thanks for the response by the way.
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I'm looking for Dark Eldar to convert into DE. Also looking for bretonnia lances and halberds. If anyone has any they would be interested in trading PM me and we can work something out.


"And, most vivid of all, there was the dramatic epic of the rats––the scampering army of obscene vermin which had burst forth from the castle three months after the tragedy that doomed it to desertion––the lean, filthy, ravenous army which had swept all before it and devoured fowl, cats, dogs, hogs, sheep and even two hapless human beings before its fury was spent. Around that unforgettable rodent army a whole separate cycle of myths revolves, for it scattered among the village homes and brought curses and horrors in its train."

– The Rats In The Walls, H.P. Lovecraft
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Aug 20 2010, 03:33 PM
Yea, I realized that there isn't a model for the PCC when I went looking for prices. Figured that 2 augmented Rock Lobbas would fit in nicely. And at my game store, since they just opened up and don't have everything in stock yet, they offer a 15% discount on orders for items that they do not carry. Using numbers off of the GW site I can pick up a 2250 for $440, which isn't too bad. Thanks for the response by the way.

A Rock lobber + bits from the Plague Furnace. Plague Monk crew & the large brazier + some bits.
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Aug 20 2010, 09:39 PM
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Aug 20 2010, 03:33 PM
Yea, I realized that there isn't a model for the PCC when I went looking for prices. Figured that 2 augmented Rock Lobbas would fit in nicely. And at my game store, since they just opened up and don't have everything in stock yet, they offer a 15% discount on orders for items that they do not carry. Using numbers off of the GW site I can pick up a 2250 for $440, which isn't too bad. Thanks for the response by the way.

A Rock lobber + bits from the Plague Furnace. Plague Monk crew & the large brazier + some bits.

Eventually that might have to happen, it'd be a hell of allot of fun converting that. but since money is quite a large issue in my current stage of development it is not something that is economically feasible. Though it could turn out really awesome.
TRADE
I'm looking for Dark Eldar to convert into DE. Also looking for bretonnia lances and halberds. If anyone has any they would be interested in trading PM me and we can work something out.


"And, most vivid of all, there was the dramatic epic of the rats––the scampering army of obscene vermin which had burst forth from the castle three months after the tragedy that doomed it to desertion––the lean, filthy, ravenous army which had swept all before it and devoured fowl, cats, dogs, hogs, sheep and even two hapless human beings before its fury was spent. Around that unforgettable rodent army a whole separate cycle of myths revolves, for it scattered among the village homes and brought curses and horrors in its train."

– The Rats In The Walls, H.P. Lovecraft
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A guy at my FLGS has a converted Rock Lobba its pretty awesome, used green stuff over the Orc head stone and made it look all Skaven like. The Brettonian Trebuchet would also be a good conversion piece as it looks more like the image in our Codex.

Heard a rumor there is a model for it coming very soon (somewhere on this site)... though we will have to wait until September or worse by the end of the year to find out.
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I'm planning on using a converted scrap launcher for my PCC
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Never heard of a scrap launcher before. What is it and where'd it come from?
TRADE
I'm looking for Dark Eldar to convert into DE. Also looking for bretonnia lances and halberds. If anyone has any they would be interested in trading PM me and we can work something out.


"And, most vivid of all, there was the dramatic epic of the rats––the scampering army of obscene vermin which had burst forth from the castle three months after the tragedy that doomed it to desertion––the lean, filthy, ravenous army which had swept all before it and devoured fowl, cats, dogs, hogs, sheep and even two hapless human beings before its fury was spent. Around that unforgettable rodent army a whole separate cycle of myths revolves, for it scattered among the village homes and brought curses and horrors in its train."

– The Rats In The Walls, H.P. Lovecraft
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blader4411
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A Scraplauncher is a Rhinox-pulled Mortar with Killing Blow, the only Ogre Kingdomes War Machine :P

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Stripsteak
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http://www.games-workshop.com/gws/catalog/...dId=prod1040008

not a bad idea...replace the rhinox with a rat ogre...might have to steal this idea.
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