| warpstone armour warlord; rank and file god/vulnerable flop? | ||
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| Tweet Topic Started: 19th August 2010 - 10:29 PM (877 Views) | ||
| lord baines | 19th August 2010 - 10:29 PM Post #1 | |
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will my warlord get a 2+ save in combat with his wargear ie 4+ save and shield/handweapon, bear in mind he's on a monstrous mount. its just this would be great with his warpstone armour wounding all those pesky elf spearmen on a 3+ every time i make my save on a 2+. I'm gunna be fighting lots of high elves and need a warlord to take out lots of rank and file, i'd like him to survive too because of his leadership, but with his bonebreaker thats 5 strength 5 4 strength 4 and alot of automatic strength 4 hits everytime i save a wound... he could do alot of damage to a strength 3 toughness 3 unit. useful set up? |
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| Kerb | 19th August 2010 - 11:01 PM Post #2 | |
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I think your big problem will be getting him into combat. No ward save or look out sir against shooting could be a problem. | |
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| SkavenDan | 19th August 2010 - 11:35 PM Post #3 | |
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Run a long thin unit in front of his unit (slaves with 1 rank ld 8). firing over enemy troops -2. Stormbanner is a must as always. Of course cannon balls and spells are always a worry but still best thing to do is just stick to the plan and get him in there. |
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| lord baines | 19th August 2010 - 11:41 PM Post #4 | |
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He'll have a unit of slaves infront of his rogre unit, i just want a cheap, hitty character... would he get the 2+ save. not gunna be facing a huge amount of missile fire, but magic could be a problem. any suggestions? | |
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| SkavenDan | 19th August 2010 - 11:50 PM Post #5 | |
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Well it depends on your magic preferences I prefer a seer with Dispel scroll and a warlock with the feedback scroll really annoys some people. Just get into the unit with the wizards asap and start allocating attacks straight away beat them to death with clan-rats and slaves lol. | |
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| Kevlar | 20th August 2010 - 01:06 AM Post #6 | |
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15 point unupgraded warlock engineer in his unit with the 45 pt MR 3 item. Well you might as well give him the iron curse icon too. Might save you from a cannon ball. 65 point unit protector. | |
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| glenc1447 | 20th August 2010 - 03:42 AM Post #7 | |
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The biggest thing you have to fear, IMO, is Okkham's (sp?) Mindraiser. 5 ranks of strength 8 spearmen is not fun (for you) and will completely remove that precious 2+ armour save, and even magic resistance won't help | |
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| bakfire the experimenter | 20th August 2010 - 08:32 AM Post #8 | |
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i like the scroll of look your a frog - its great against dark elves when they cast power of darkness as it stops them from casting anymore and then they have to take the hits from their unused dice. if you use it on the right wizard i.e the one who has the spell you dont want going off like okham's (before he casts it) it will protect you against this spell. but to be honest i dont think the magic phase is as much of a threat anymore - yes there are some devastating spells but as you cant guarantee how many dice you are going to have it is a bit problem relying on the magic phase to kill the thing you really need killed. now template weapons will be your problem - killing blow scrap launchers
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| Lord Aluka | 26th August 2010 - 07:04 AM Post #9 | |
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Well, since high Elves do not have acces to template warmachines or cannons, I would say your Warlord is pretty save in a unit. | |
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| Paricidas | 26th August 2010 - 07:37 AM Post #10 | |
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If I was the high elf, i would just beat the crap out of the unit the warlord is in and hope the CR is good enough to make him flee. | |
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| Arhain | 26th August 2010 - 10:54 PM Post #11 | |
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If it makes you feel better, Okram's Mindrazor doesn't modify the armor save. Reread the wording, the ld. is only used for the str for purposes of rolling to wound. |
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| Pestilent Lord | 27th August 2010 - 01:07 AM Post #12 | |
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Then go read the FAQ which re-writes the spell to basically say, 'use your Leadership as your Strength in close combat'. So, by the way it was first written in the book, you were right. Thanks to the Errata though, you're wrong. |
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| Kevlar | 27th August 2010 - 01:14 AM Post #13 | |
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Its risky. Lots of sword masters and white lions, chariots, maybe even silver helms now that the special slot restrictions have been lifted. I'd at least give him the dawnstone if you can't get him a proper ward save. Won't help with attacks that ignore armor though. |
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| Stripsteak | 27th August 2010 - 07:21 AM Post #14 | |
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Magic is what you need to watch out for. HE are pretty good at getting past normal armor. Their spears will just put out numbers, and any of the special units will be -2 at least if not 3 or 4 (white lions with razor banner is ouch). I'd go for a ward save of some kind and possibly a source of MR for the unit. But really i don't think that warlord is going to see combat unless the magic phase has some bad luck, they have an extra killy character which it probably won't survive against anyway, or you offer them some kind of more intimidating target. Against HE you're likely going to see lore of death...that signature spell is very dangerous for any of our characters...especially cause one of the flavors of the month for HE is a caster prince of death, ld10 vs ld 7 is just ouch. I also wouldn't rely too much on thinking you'll get dispels or scrolls as your only protection, hence suggesting MR. If not facing the prince of death...or likely in addition to him you'll probably be facing teclis, book of hoeth, or staff of solidity...all of which means their mages will be casting with IF when they want/need to. staff of solidity is your best bet, it allows them to be a little reckless since they can ignore the first miscast, so they still need double 6s but it allows them to throw lots of dice around without much worry at first. |
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