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No terror for doomwheel and A-bomb?
Topic Started: 7th August 2010 - 03:15 PM (1,920 Views)
Warlock Matik
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Since flaming attacks cause fear in monsters, beasts, etc but the hpa causes terror, does that mean it is immune to the fear caused by flaming attacks?

Yes it's immune. Fear/Terror grant immunity to all fear no matter where it comes from.
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Riktikticheck
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yeah it is.
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nosreme


They both still cause fear in fear causing enemies, which is good, and are immune to both fear and terror themselves.
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Kerb
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Aug 7 2010, 08:57 PM
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Since flaming attacks cause fear in monsters, beasts, etc but the hpa causes terror, does that mean it is immune to the fear caused by flaming attacks?

Yes it's immune. Fear/Terror grant immunity to all fear no matter where it comes from.

Does it work the other way though? Are units with flaming attacks immune to fear from fear causing beasts/monsters etc? :huh:

Been wondering about that for a while.
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Decker_cky
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That's how I read it. Makes the flaming banner a good boost against chaos knights.
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Kurdush
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Of course, if we want to cause proper Terror, we could always use the Vermin Lord, right? Together with the banner of the Horned rat, one would think. But then again, the rat demon is preferably left in the drawer...
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Greyseer Furmin
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So the Abonation no longer inflicts impact hits when it charges, because it can't? What about the Doomwheel?
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Riktikticheck
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actually they do count as charging, the terror part is just invalidated by the can't choose flee as a reaction part of the random move rule.
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Both the Doomwheel and the HPA still cause fear along with terror which isnt a bad thing as once you get them into HtH enemy units in base to base with them have to still take the LD test for fear and if they fail they have WS of 1 for that round of combat.

I do agree the Doomwheels loss of terror on the charge is something that needs to be covered in errata as it makes no sense to let the HPA have it and not the DW.
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i agree in ways terror has been nerfed but there are two ways of my tail... wait what i must of had some bad warpstone anyways with the new rules when a terror causing unit charges a regular unit they must take a terrortest thhen a fear test meaning 2 leaderships befor the fighting begins so that will scare them away but those never just affect the first round they need to take the tests again in following turns. in other words a lot of state troopers pooping there pants :rogre:
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Aeschere
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Aug 12 2010, 08:33 AM
I do agree the Doomwheels loss of terror on the charge is something that needs to be covered in errata as it makes no sense to let the HPA have it and not the DW.

Both the Doomwheel and the HPA have lost the terror test on the charge since they are both no longer able to declaring charges.
This is stated in the BRB under the Random Movement section and the HPA unit entry has been changed in the Skaven FAQ.

Warhammer Rulebook. p.74
 

Models with Random Movement cannot declare charges.
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Charge Reactions cannot be declared against enemies with the Random Movement special rule...


The next part is what makes them loose the use of Terror on the charge

Warhammer Rulebook. p.78
 

Note that, if the target unit is not allowed to take any charge reaction (if, for example, the Terror-causing unit charged as a result of a pursuit or a random move), then the target does not take this test.


Emphasis added for clarification.
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Yobtar
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My post was more about them still having fear and enemies having to take fear tests at the start of every round of combat.

WS 1 vs any enemy is bad but against HPAs and DWs is even worse.

while I want to believe the loss of terror on the charge will get an errata for both the DW and HPA Im starting to think that GW kept it on them so they are immune to fear/terror from enemies, which is another bonus.
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