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Portable watchtower
Topic Started: 4th August 2010 - 07:09 AM (1,262 Views)
Sylterix
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Aug 7 2010, 12:30 PM

Skaven for defending the tower, let's face it it's not our strongest point. I found storm vermin effective for this using your hand weapon instead of your halberd. 3+ AS and a 6+WS helps you to minimize the kill so you can pass your steadfast test and push the attacker out.

any one ever had to push out chosen warriors of tzeenth with a 3+ ward save? lost effort really, no matter what you throw at them they save and you die. our template attacks are also minimized to only d6 hits and so on...worst experience ever :wacko:

Unfortunately, stormvermin are no longer allowed to use Hand Weapons. They have to use their Halberd as it is a special weapon.

As for enemies hiding up in a tower, I find that crack's call works wonders. :)
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Aug 7 2010, 08:18 PM
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Aug 7 2010, 12:30 PM

Skaven for defending the tower, let's face it it's not our strongest point. I found storm vermin effective for this using your hand weapon instead of your halberd. 3+ AS and a 6+WS helps you to minimize the kill so you can pass your steadfast test and push the attacker out.

any one ever had to push out chosen warriors of tzeenth with a 3+ ward save? lost effort really, no matter what you throw at them they save and you die. our template attacks are also minimized to only d6 hits and so on...worst experience ever :wacko:

Unfortunately, stormvermin are no longer allowed to use Hand Weapons. They have to use their Halberd as it is a special weapon.

As for enemies hiding up in a tower, I find that crack's call works wonders. :)

lol if you do cracks call and destory the watchtower in the watchtower mission would it count as a draw?
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I actually did this in a game, (screaming bell rang a 13) we followed the scenario rules as if no one controlled the tower. IE it went to VPs.
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What about using an assassin. It's only 10 on 10 and the assassin's ASF should take a couple out and reduce the number of incoming attacks.

LOL. Also you could always put a Vermin Lord in the tower! Nice 500 pts of point denial.
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Pure monsters can't enter a building. Sorry. Assassins are an interesting idea. You could use rat swarms too but I don't think they'd help in anyway, 50 attacks may be nice though.
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also putting a monster in a building would be counter producive, when outside he gets hit by a cannonball he takes 1 hit that does those pesky d6 wounds if unsaved, where as in a house he takse d6 hits from the same thing...

Which would result in a very dead verminlord, and to top that off the house is bigger than the lord so hitting him would be even easier than before ;D
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Aug 7 2010, 06:34 PM
Sylterix
Aug 7 2010, 08:18 PM
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Aug 7 2010, 12:30 PM

Skaven for defending the tower, let's face it it's not our strongest point. I found storm vermin effective for this using your hand weapon instead of your halberd. 3+ AS and a 6+WS helps you to minimize the kill so you can pass your steadfast test and push the attacker out.

any one ever had to push out chosen warriors of tzeenth with a 3+ ward save? lost effort really, no matter what you throw at them they save and you die. our template attacks are also minimized to only d6 hits and so on...worst experience ever :wacko:

Unfortunately, stormvermin are no longer allowed to use Hand Weapons. They have to use their Halberd as it is a special weapon.

As for enemies hiding up in a tower, I find that crack's call works wonders. :)

lol if you do cracks call and destory the watchtower in the watchtower mission would it count as a draw?

Core rulebook FAQ says if the tower gets blown up you fight over the ruins that are left in its place.
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Yeah, the fold-a-tower is pretty pants for anything except jezzails really. 360 degree LoS and -2 to hit (hard cover) means you'll probably only ever see missile units garrisoning them.

My only issue with the tower though is the points output. At minimum, a naked warlord carrying the tower is nearly 200pts. You have to ask yourself if sacrificing 200pts for your jezzail unit is worth it?
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I think Jazzails are a fairly expensive option and with the mass units we now see if your going to invest in Jazzails you really should think about keeping them alive but I would much refer a maxed out unit of Gutter runners with slings and poison in the tower with an assassin for if they are charged.
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Aug 7 2010, 12:30 PM
You do need to test for your own censers, every model wielding a censer or in base contact with a wielder needs to take a T-test.

Skaven for defending the tower, let's face it it's not our strongest point. I found storm vermin effective for this using your hand weapon instead of your halberd. 3+ AS and a 6+WS helps you to minimize the kill so you can pass your steadfast test and push the attacker out. Just keep on doing so untill backup shows up and you flank charge as the assaulting unit needs to be pushed away from the building id the defender passes it's steadfast test.

any one ever had to push out chosen warriors of tzeenth with a 3+ ward save? lost effort really, no matter what you throw at them they save and you die. our template attacks are also minimized to only d6 hits and so on...worst experience ever :wacko:

I'm thinking thats when Crack's call might come in handy :)
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I reckon a cool thematic representation for this would be a skavan tunneling device that had punched up through the surface. Would look awesome if I had a clue how to make one!
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Aug 12 2010, 11:03 PM
I reckon a cool thematic representation for this would be a skavan tunneling device that had punched up through the surface. Would look awesome if I had a clue how to make one!

THIS. I had this exact same thought the other day :D The pointy drill bit would split in four sections and fold outwards, and a cannon/platform could raise out the center. I'd have a go at making it if I wasn't failing to paint my clanrats.
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