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Painting Vows; August 2010
Topic Started: 3rd August 2010 - 06:49 PM (732 Views)
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Painting Vows August 2010!

[Reference List for Vow Values]

Buying
0 vvps for buying things. Its not really doing anything, but you can put them in your vows if you want to have a more complete 'to do' list.

Assembling
1vvp (vow value point) for each man sized model.
2vvps for each ogre sized model on large bases, (same for tyranid warrior size models).
5vvps for tanks, or tank sized models (ie - carnifexes and other monstrous creatures)

NB - Forgeworld models will vary a lot in size so ask a P&H team member before deciding on a value for these. ^_^

Painting
2vvps for man-sized models.
4vvps for man-sized models on a cavalry base.
5vvps for ogre size models (on large bases - same for 40K) or characters.
10vvps for tanks and tank sized models and monstrous creatures for 40K.

NB - Again for Forgeworld stuff, let us know what it is and we'll decide on a value for you! ^_^

Basing
1vvp for each model based.

Conversions/Greenstuff
1vvp for a small conversion/greenstuff job.
2vvps for a large conversion/greenstuff job.
4vvps for an extremely large conversion/greenstuff job.

You'll have to be truthful about these. We can't really rate these individually, so tell the truth otherwise your just lying to yourself. :P

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Vow Ratings > PRS Points

This is the number of vvps you need to accumulate to achieve each vow rank (and also the PRS points achieved per vow rank achieved)

Easy = 10-30vvps (1 PRS point)
Medium = 31-70vvps (2 PRS points)
Hard = 71-100vvps (3 PRS points)
Insane = 101-130vvps (5 PRS points)
Completely Insane = 131-199vvps (8 PRS points)
Pigmental = 200+ vvps (12 PRS points)

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[CODE Form to Fill Out]

Copy and paste this form into a post and fill in what you vow to do and work out your vvps and vow rating.

Post that into your post twice. The second time put [ CODE ] [ /CODE ] tags around it, so we can just copy and paste this into the inital post, without having to mutate each post individually (which takes ages).

This makes life a lot easier for us when it comes to working the new painting vows system and ratings and will stop arguments, as you can work out exactly what rating your vows will get! ^_^

Replace things in CAPS with the required information.

Remove any areas you don't use.

Make sure you calculate the vvps and exchange the x in each set of brackets with the number you get per item.

Feel free to add other areas such as Buy; if you want to.

If you're doing the vows but NOT signed up for the PRS system, then post the lists, but just leave out the total points and vow rating.

Code:
 
[b]NAME - (VOW RATING)[/b]

[b]Assemble;[/b]
ITEM (x vvps) -
ITEM 2 (x vvps) -
ETC

[b]Conversion/Greenstuff;[/b]
ITEM (x vvps) -
ETC

[b]Paint;[/b]
ITEM (x vvps) -
ITEM 2 (x vvps) -
ETC

[b]Base;[/b]
ITEM (x vvps) -
ETC

[b][i]Total [color=red]vvps[/color] = POINTS[/i][/b]
[b][i]Total completed [color=green]vvps[/color] = POINTS[/i][/b]


Example

Scarfester - (medium)

Assemble;
10 clanrats (10 vvps) -
2 rat ogres (4 vvps) -

Paint;
10 clanrats (20 vvps) - Completed!
2 rat ogres (10 vvps) -
1 ratling gun (4 vvps) -

Base;
10 clanrats (10 vvps) -
2 rat ogres (2 vvps) -
1 ratling gun (1 vvps) -

Total vvps = 61
Total completed vvps = 20 POINTS

Code:
 
[b]Scarfester - (medium)[/b]

[b]Assemble;[/b]
10 clanrats (10 vvps) -
2 rat ogres (4 vvps) -

[b]Paint;[/b]
10 clanrats (20 vvps) - [color=red]Completed![/color]
2 rat ogres (10 vvps) -
1 ratling gun (4 vvps) -

[b]Base;[/b]
10 clanrats (10 vvps) -
2 rat ogres (2 vvps) -
1 ratling gun (1 vvps) -

[b][i]Total [color=red]vvps[/color] = 61[/i][/b]
[b][i]Total completed [color=green]vvps[/color] = 20 POINTS[/i][/b]


NB - Notice that there are 2 lists in this post, so that the second CODE form can be copy/pasted into the initial vows list easily by a member of the P&H team

Use -
Code:
 
[color=red]Completed![/color]

for each section you have completed!

For EACH update you post, post your updated CODE list, so its quick and easy for us to copy/paste into the vows list please.

We suggest that you keep a copy of your vows list saved on your desktop and update and save it as you go. That way you only have a small amount to update and then copy/paste each time you wish to update your vows.
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[Last Months Completed Vows!]
.....


The Vows!

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CapAmr05 - (EASY)

Assemble;
Magnets, 37 giant rats and 29 plaguemonks bases (11* vvps) - Completed!
* takes roughly 1/6th of the time to magnetize as it does to assemble

Conversion/Greenstuff;
Warlord small conversion to cover the hole (1 vvps) - Completed!


Paint;
Warlord (2 vvps) -

Base;
Warlord (1 vvps) -


Total 15 vvps = 1 POINTS
Total completed 12 vvps = POINTS

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Ratmaster Rex - (Easy)

Assemble;
Plague Claw Catapult (5 vvps) -

Conversion/Greenstuff;
Plague Claw Catapult (4 vvps) -

Paint;
Plague Claw Catapult (10 vvps) -

Base;
Plague Claw Catapult (1 vvps) -

Total vvps = 20 POINTS
Total completed vvps = POINTS

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MonsterZero - (Hard)

Paint;
25 Plague Monks (50 vvps) - Complete!
1 July/August entry (2 vvps) - Complete!

Base;
25 Plague Monks (25 vvps) - Complete!
1 July/August entry (1 vvps) - Complete!

Total 78 vvps = 3 PRS POINTS
Total completed 78 vvps = 3 PRS POINTS

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Scarfester - (Completely Insane)

Guard, guard, guard, guard, guard!!!

Assemble;
10 Guardsmen (10 vvps) -
3 Mortar teams (6 vvps) -
Armoured Sentinel (2 vvps) -

Fix
3 guard that have broken bits and trim problem areas off (0vvps) - Complete!

Paint;
21 Guardsmen (42 vvps) -
10 Storm troopers (20 vvps) -
Sentinel (5vvps) -
3 Mortar teams (6 vvps) -
Company command squad [size0](4 models)
(8 vvps) -
Commander (5vvps) -
Platoon command squad [size0](5 models) (10 vvps) -
Bassilisk (10 vvps) -
Lemun Russ battle tank (10 vvps) -
Lemun Russ variant tank (10 vvps) -

Base;
21 Guardsmen (21 vvps) -
10 Storm troopers (10 vvps) -
Sentinel (1 vvps) -
3 Mortar teams (3 vvps) -
Company command squad [size0](4 models) (4 vvps) -
Commander (1 vvps) -
Platoon command squad [size0](5 models) (5 vvps) -


Total 183 vvps = 8 POINTS
Total completed 0 vvps = 0 POINTS

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Snic Filthclaw - (Completely Insane)

Assemble;
13 Clanrats (13 vvps) -
1 Unknown oop metal figure (1 vvps) -
1 Chieftain (1 vvps) -
10 Flagellants (10 vvps) -
1 Assassin (1 vvps) -
1 Warlord (1 vvps) -
1 Old Queek (1 vvps) -
1 Ratling gun (1 vvps) -
1 Warlock engineer (1 vvps) -
1 clanrat unit filler (1 vvps) -

Paint;
13 Clanrats (26 vvps) -
1 Unknown oop metal figure (2 vvps) -
1 Chieftain (5 vvps) -
10 Flagellants (20 vvps) -
1 Assassin (5 vvps) -
1 Warlord (5 vvps) -
1 Old Queek (5 vvps) -
1 Ratling gun (4 vvps) -
1 Warlock engineer (5 vvps) -
1 clanrat filler (5 vvps) -
1 Rogre / stormvermin unit filler (2 vvps) -

Total 115 vvps = 8 POINTS
Total completed 0 vvps = 0 POINTS

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Tarkii - (Completely Insane)

Assemble;
20 nightrunners (20 vvps) -
40 stormvermin (40 vvps) -
35 plague monks (35 vvps)

Conversion/Greenstuff;
plague claw catapult (4 vvps)? (seeing what i can come up with using sprue pieces/ spare parts)

Paint;
20 goblins (40 vvps) -
20 skavens (40 vvps) -
17 giant rats (17 vvps) -

Base;
20 goblins (20 vvps) -
40 skavens (40 vvps) -


Total 256 vvps =12 POINTS
Total completed vvps = POINTS

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thetallest - (Pigmental)

Assemble;
50 Skavenslaves with Spears (50 vvps) - completed!

Paint;
50 Skavenslaves with Spears (100 vvps) -

Base;
50 Skavenslaves with Spears (50 vvps) -


Total 200 = 12
Total completed vvps = POINTS

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Throat Ripper (Medium)


Paint;
15 White Lions of Chrace (30 vvps) -
20 Slaves (40 vvps) -

Total 70 vvps = 2 POINTS
Total completed 0 vvps = 0 POINTS

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Uglulyx - (Pigmental)

Conversion/Greenstuff;
6 Ogre Bulls (6 vvps) - Completed!
1 Ogre Tyrant (2 vvps) - Completed!
1 Ogre BSB (1 vvps) - Completed!

Paint;
24 Slaves (48 vvps) - 4/24
Converted Rat Ogre (5 vvps) - Completed!
6 Ogre Bulls (30 vvps) - Completed!
1 Ogre Tyrant (5vvps) - Completed!
1 Ogre BSB (5 vvps) - Completed!
3 Ogre Maneaterz (15 vvps - Completed!
4 Ogre Leadbelchers (20 vvps) - Completed!
6 Ogre Ironguts (30vvps) - Completed!
6 Ogre Bulls (30 vvps) -
2 Sabertusks (8 vvps) - Completed!
1 Ogre Hunter (5 vvps) -

Base;
30 Ogre Models (30 vvps) -

Total vvps = 240
Total completed vvps = 135

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MonsterZero
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I'm back! :P

MonsterZero - (Hard)

Paint;
25 Plague Monks (50 vvps) -
1 July/August entry (2 vvps) -

Base;
25 Plague Monks (25 vvps) -
1 July/August entry (1 vvps) -

Total 78 vvps = 3 PRS POINTS
Total completed 0 vvps = 0 PRS POINTS
Code:
 
[b]MonsterZero - (Hard)[/b]

[b]Paint;[/b]
25 Plague Monks (50 vvps) -
1 July/August entry (2 vvps) -

[b]Base;[/b]
25 Plague Monks (25 vvps) -
1 July/August entry (1 vvps) -

[b][i]Total [color=red]78 vvps[/color] = 3 PRS POINTS[/i][/b]
[b][i]Total completed [color=green]0 vvps[/color] = 0 PRS POINTS[/i][/b]
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Throat Ripper
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Throat Ripper (Medium) (Not quite the Insanity of yesteryear eh? :P )


Paint;
15 White Lions of Chrace (30 vvps) -
20 Slaves (40 vvps) -



Total 70 vvps = 2 POINTS
Total completed 0 vvps = 0 POINTS

Code:
 
[b]Throat Ripper (Medium)[/b]


[b]Paint;[/b]
15 White Lions of Chrace (30 vvps) -
20 Slaves (40 vvps) -



[b][i]Total [color=red]70 vvps[/color] = 2 POINTS[/i][/b]
[b][i]Total completed [color=green]0 vvps[/color] = 0 POINTS[/i][/b]
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Ratmaster Rex
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I have alot to do this month but I should be able to make and paint this, if I have time I'll do a Warlord too.

Ratmaster Rex - (Easy)

Assemble;
Plague Claw Catapult (5 vvps) -

Conversion/Greenstuff;
Plague Claw Catapult (4 vvps) -

Paint;
Plague Claw Catapult (10 vvps) -

Base;
Plague Claw Catapult (1 vvps) -

Total vvps = 20 POINTS
Total completed vvps = POINTS

Code:
 
[b]Ratmaster Rex - (Easy)[/b]

[b]Assemble;[/b]
Plague Claw Catapult (5 vvps) -

[b]Conversion/Greenstuff;[/b]
Plague Claw Catapult (4 vvps) -

[b]Paint;[/b]
Plague Claw Catapult (10 vvps) -

[b]Base;[/b]
Plague Claw Catapult (1 vvps) -

[b][i]Total [color=red]vvps[/color] = 20 POINTS[/i][/b]
[b][i]Total completed [color=green]vvps[/color] = POINTS[/i][/b]


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Snic Filthclaw
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Snic Filthclaw - (Insane)

Assemble;
13 Clanrats (13 vvps) -
1 Unknown oop metal figure (1 vvps) -
1 Chieftain (1 vvps) -
10 Flagellants (10 vvps) -
1 Assassin (1 vvps) -
1 Warlord (1 vvps) -
1 Old Queek (1 vvps) -
1 Ratling gun (1 vvps) -
1 Warlock engineer (1 vvps) -
1 clanrat unit filler (1 vvps) -

Conversion/Greenstuff;
-

Paint;
13 Clanrats (26 vvps) -
1 Unknown oop metal figure (2 vvps) -
1 Chieftain (5 vvps) -
10 Flagellants (20 vvps) -
1 Assassin (5 vvps) -
1 Warlord (5 vvps) -
1 Old Queek (5 vvps) -
1 Ratling gun (4 vvps) -
1 Warlock engineer (5 vvps) -
1 clanrat filler (?? vvps) -
1 Rogre / stormvermin unit filler (?? vvps) -

Base;
-

Total ?? vvps = ?? POINTS
Total completed 0 vvps = 0 POINTS

Code:
 

[b]Snic Filthclaw - (Insane)[/b]

[b]Assemble;[/b]
13 Clanrats (13 vvps) -
1 Unknown oop metal figure (1 vvps) -
1 Chieftain (1 vvps) -
10 Flagellants (10 vvps) -
1 Assassin (1 vvps) -
1 Warlord (1 vvps) -
1 Old Queek (1 vvps) -
1 Ratling gun (1 vvps) -
1 Warlock engineer (1 vvps) -
1 clanrat unit filler (1 vvps) -

[b]Conversion/Greenstuff;[/b]
-

[b]Paint;[/b]
13 Clanrats (26 vvps) -
1 Unknown oop metal figure (2 vvps) -
1 Chieftain (5 vvps) -
10 Flagellants (20 vvps) -
1 Assassin (5 vvps) -
1 Warlord (5 vvps) -
1 Old Queek (5 vvps) -
1 Ratling gun (4 vvps) -
1 Warlock engineer (5 vvps) -
1 clanrat filler (?? vvps) -
1 Rogre / stormvermin unit filler (?? vvps) -

[b]Base;[/b]
-

[b][i]Total [color=red]?? vvps[/color] = ?? POINTS[/i][/b]
[b][i]Total completed [color=green]0 vvps[/color] = 0 POINTS[/i][/b]


The clanrat filler will be on a rat ogre base and has a model on it with the height of a normal unit but the length of almost 2 20mm bases and a corpse / enemy on the ground (if I can find it) is it fair to count this as a ogre sized unit?

Also The stormvermin filler rat ogre is already painted but I need to repaint approx half the model for it to fit in my scheme. how many paints would be fair? 3?
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I'm spending then next couple of days trying to knock out as much as I can in order to get ready for the upcoming tournament; Aug 7-8

I've got an old Queek Model that I'm leaving the trophy rack off of, and I'm going to use him as a new General. Thus far I've got the base of his armor down, his underlying chain mail has been washed; green, then mithril silver, then light blue, then green again it gives a great glow effect and the metallic silver shows through just enough to give it a shene but retain it's warpstone greenish glow. I've got the skin almost knocked out, now I need to get all of his trinkets and knick-knacks done up.

8-6
Today's the day I drive down, I finally got everything finished and put together last night! I even had time to drill out his stand a place a magent piece done so he wouldn't go tumbling off and risk scratching his new paint job as his unit and warlitter get pushed around the battlefield.

I'll try to take pictures during the tournament.

CapAmr05 - (EASY)

Assemble;
Magnets, 37 giant rats and 29 plaguemonks bases (11* vvps) - Completed!
* takes roughly 1/6th of the time to magnetize as it does to assemble

Conversion/Greenstuff;
Warlord small conversion to cover the hole (1 vvps) - Completed!


Paint;
Warlord (2 vvps) - Completed!

Base;
Warlord (1 vvps) - Completed!


Total 15 vvps = 1 POINTS
Total completed 15 vvps = 1 POINTS



Code:
 
[b]CapAmr05 - (EASY)[/b]

[b]Assemble;[/b]
Magnets, 37 giant rats and 29 plaguemonks bases (11* vvps) - [color=red]Completed![/color]
* takes roughly 1/6th of the time to magnetize as it does to assemble

[b]Conversion/Greenstuff;[/b]
Warlord small conversion to cover the hole (1 vvps) - [color=red]Completed![/color]


[b]Paint;[/b]
Warlord (2 vvps) - [color=red]Completed![/color]

[b]Base;[/b]
Warlord (1 vvps) - [color=red]Completed![/color]


[b][i]Total [color=red]15 vvps[/color] = 1 POINTS[/i][/b]
[b][i]Total completed [color=green]15 vvps[/color] = 1 POINTS[/i][/b]


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Tarkii


Tarkii - (Pigmental)

Assemble;
20 nightrunners (20 vvps) -
40 stormvermin (40 vvps) -
35 plague monks (35 vvps)
(no im not gonna get all these done, ive not decided which to do yet though)

Conversion/Greenstuff;
plague claw catapult (4 vvps)? (seeing what i can come up with using sprue pieces/ spare parts)

Paint;
20 goblins (40 vvps) -
20 skavens (40 vvps) -
17 giant rats (17 vvps) -
(again im not gonna get all these done)

Base;
20 goblins (20 vvps) -
40 skavens (40 vvps) -

ETC

Total 256 vvps =12 POINTS
Total completed vvps = POINTS


Code:
 

[b]NAME - (VOW RATING)[/b]

[b]Assemble;[/b]
20 nightrunners (20 vvps) -
40 stormvermin (40 vvps) -
35 plague monks (35 vvps)

[b]Conversion/Greenstuff;[/b]
plague claw catapult (4 vvps)? (seeing what i can come up with using sprue pieces/ spare parts)

[b]Paint;[/b]
20 goblins (40 vvps) -
20 skavens (40 vvps) -
17 giant rats (17 vvps) -

[b]Base;[/b]
20 goblins (20 vvps) -
40 skavens (40 vvps) -


[b][i]Total [color=red]256 vvps[/color] =12 POINTS[/i][/b]
[b][i]Total completed [color=green]vvps[/color] = POINTS[/i][/b]



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Uglulyx
Clanrat
NAME - (VOW RATING)

Paint;
24 Slaves (48 vvps) -
Converted Rat Ogre (5 vvps) -
ETC

Total vvps = 53
Total completed vvps = 0

Code:
 
[b]NAME - (VOW RATING)[/b]

[b]Paint;[/b]
24 Slaves (48 vvps) -
Converted Rat Ogre (5 vvps) -
ETC

[b][i]Total [color=red]vvps[/color] = 53[/i][/b]
[b][i]Total completed [color=green]vvps[/color] = 0[/i][/b]
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Scarfester
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Scaaarrrrghhh

Vows updated! ~ Scar

Wow, loads of people entering this month!
A real upturn compared to the last few months, which is a good thing. ^_^

Hopefuly I will get some time to paint a bit later in the month as well.
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Snic Filthclaw
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Snic Filthclaw
Aug 4 2010, 12:49 PM
The clanrat filler will be on a rat ogre base and has a model on it with the height of a normal unit but the length of almost 2 20mm bases and a corpse / enemy on the ground (if I can find it) is it fair to count this as a ogre sized unit?

Also The stormvermin filler rat ogre is already painted but I need to repaint approx half the model for it to fit in my scheme. how many paints would be fair? 3?

Anyone fancy answering my question? :P
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Uglulyx
Clanrat
Uglulyx - (Pigmental)

Conversion/Greenstuff;
6 Ogre Bulls (6 vvps) - Completed!
1 Ogre Tyrant (2 vvps) - Completed!
1 Ogre BSB (1 vvps) - Completed!

Paint;
24 Slaves (48 vvps) - 4/24
Converted Rat Ogre (5 vvps) - Completed!
6 Ogre Bulls (30 vvps) - Completed!
1 Ogre Tyrant (5vvps) - Completed!
1 Ogre BSB (5 vvps) - Completed!
3 Ogre Maneaterz (15 vvps - Completed!
4 Ogre Leadbelchers (20 vvps) - Completed!
6 Ogre Ironguts (30vvps) - Completed!
6 Ogre Bulls (30 vvps) -
2 Sabertusks (8 vvps) - Completed!
1 Ogre Hunter (5 vvps) -

Base;
30 Ogre Models (30 vvps) -

Total vvps = 240
Total completed vvps = 135

I added some more vows I hope that's ok.


Mutate: I've finished quite a few more, just didn't get around to adding to vows.

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[b]Uglulyx - (Pigmental)[/b]

[b]Conversion/Greenstuff;[/b]
6 Ogre Bulls (6 vvps) - [color=red]Completed![/color]
1 Ogre Tyrant (2 vvps) - [color=red]Completed![/color]
1 Ogre BSB (1 vvps) - [color=red]Completed![/color]

[b]Paint;[/b]
24 Slaves (48 vvps) - 4/24
Converted Rat Ogre (5 vvps) - [color=red]Completed![/color]
6 Ogre Bulls (30 vvps) - [color=red]Completed![/color]
1 Ogre Tyrant (5vvps) - [color=red]Completed![/color]
1 Ogre BSB (5 vvps) - [color=red]Completed![/color]
3 Ogre Maneaterz (15 vvps - [color=red]Completed![/color]
4 Ogre Leadbelchers (20 vvps) - [color=red]Completed![/color]
6 Ogre Ironguts (30vvps) - [color=red]Completed![/color]
6 Ogre Bulls (30 vvps) -
2 Sabertusks (8 vvps) - [color=red]Completed![/color]
1 Ogre Hunter (5 vvps) -

[b]Base;[/b]
30 Ogre Models (30 vvps) -

[b][i]Total [color=red]vvps[/color] = 240[/i][/b]
[b][i]Total completed [color=green]vvps[/color] = 135[/i][/b]
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thetallest
Chieftain
For the record, are we really considering slaves to be worth 1 point each to assemble, and 2 points to paint? I finished up assembly for the slaves in about 2 hours - having to clean each slave took about a minute and half per, and about 30 seconds to assemble.

thetallest - (Pigmental)

Assemble;
50 Skavenslaves with Spears (50 vvps) - completed!

Paint;
50 Skavenslaves with Spears (100 vvps) -

Base;
50 Skavenslaves with Spears (50 vvps) -


Total 200 = 12
Total completed vvps = POINTS

Code:
 
[b]thetallest - (Pigmental)[/b]

[b]Assemble;[/b]
50 Skavenslaves with Spears (50 vvps) - [i]completed![/i]

[b]Paint;[/b]
50 Skavenslaves with Spears (100 vvps) -

[b]Base;[/b]
50 Skavenslaves with Spears (50 vvps) -


[b][i]Total [color=red]200[/color] = 12[/i][/b]
[b][i]Total completed [color=green]vvps[/color] = POINTS[/i][/b]
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Vows updated! ~ Scarfester

I've added a bit for fixing up some models that got broken and went wierd when I last sprayed them! <_<

Snic - I think 2vvp's is sensible for repainting half your unit filler. I've put the vvp value in for that and your other unit filler and added up your points, so you don't need too. ;)

thetallest - Yep, slaves follow the same vvp values as all other models. If your happy with them being done to less of a standard than your other models then thats fine.
Potentialy they are just as time consuming to assemble and paint as all your other models, so we can't segregate them out......even if thats what they get in Skaven society. :P
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Back to retirement!

OK, so I will join in with the vows this month as promised! However, I shall not be doing a conventional vow, as I fail them because I am never dedicated enough to FINISH most miniatures. Plus, I lack a fine detail brush and 3-4 of the paints required to complete models for my Beastmen army (which is what Im currently working on). So until I can afford to aquire such materials (IE when my tax clears) I will be partaking in a vow of a different kind.

This month, I intend to spend a minimum of 30 minutes painting Beastmen each day. 3 Days per week I must do a minimum of an hour. This is for Beastmen only. Im horrible at getting sidetracked by new shiny toys, so hopefully this will mean my army will progress even though I dont have the materials to finish any figures.
By the way, this is part of a larger project I am attempting, where I will be doing this for a whole year (though I dare say armies will change then!).

I know we are already 10 days into the month, but I have been doing this vow the whole time, just not recorded it yet!

Best of luck everyone :)

- Sammy
"If the squidman can't do it, no one can!!"

Wins/Losses/Draws

Skaven Clan Rattenkrieg - 108/58/20
Dark Elves - 44/14/8
Hochland Empire - 33/14/4
Malkavian Vampires - 23/22/4
Beastmen - 50/25/2

Have not completed a Painting Vow since July 07!!
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