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Old SKaven; How rare are they?
Topic Started: 18th July 2010 - 05:17 AM (890 Views)
That Li'l Rat
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I found this on Ebay and I was wondering how rare are old skaven? Would is be a good idea to bid on them or is this too expensive? I don't desperatly need them in my army but I think they would nice to be mixed in my units.
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This probably won't reach you in time. But I am firmly of the opinion that if you can find clanrats anywhere for under $1 per mini, that is almost incapable of being a bad buy.

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It is a bit late :) but those old single-pose plastics are not very rare. Personally I dislike them and give them away when any wander into my collection: I think that they are ugh-ly and they are also rather too large.

I don't think that there are many Skaven minis that really qualify as rare, maybe some of the Mordheim pieces (Clan Skryre Rat Ogre comes to mind). Most of the stuff shows up rather regularly on eBay. Prices there vary wildly, I wouldn't pay more than about $1/mini for plastics unless the paint job was fantastic.

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You can still find these people who have hero quest usually have some of these models just laying around gathering dust.

I have about 100 of that type of skaven model.
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I got a bunch as extras in a trade for the old 6E starter set and some Empire stuff. I used them for conversions to make crew for jezzails or the cannon.
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Jul 18 2010, 12:17 AM
...and I was wondering how rare are old skaven? Would is be a good idea to bid on them or is this too expensive? I don't desperatly need them in my army but I think they would nice to be mixed in my units.

the old clanrats are pretty craptastic. If you can tolerate the clanrats we had in 6th, you should be alright with them. As to rarity, I see a lot of 5th ed. skaven, not so much 6th ed. (for some strange reason :huh: ). I don't think ANY of it's rare enough to consider a potential investment (not any more than the current stuff anyway).
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Jul 18 2010, 10:53 PM
That Li'l Rat
Jul 18 2010, 12:17 AM

the old clanrats are pretty craptastic.  If you can tolerate the clanrats we had in 6th, you should be alright with them. 

Such blasphemy!!!

The old 6th ed clanrats are awesome! Sure, they're a pain to rank up, but at least they're poseable (unlike the 7th ed Clanrats, who all seem to be very similar and kind of static).

You just have to learn to get past the "squashed left foot" syndrome. :P
You kids these days have it so easy, what with your Plague Furnaces and your Hellpit Abominations and your Bonebreaker Warlords. Back in MY day, all we had was Slaves and Clanrats!...and auto-hit Ratling Guns...and skirmishing Jezzails...and 2D6 Warp Lightning...and Lead From The Back...wait, what was my arguement again?
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chieftainskritchskritch
Jul 18 2010, 11:38 PM
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Jul 18 2010, 10:53 PM
That Li'l Rat
Jul 18 2010, 12:17 AM

the old clanrats are pretty craptastic.  If you can tolerate the clanrats we had in 6th, you should be alright with them. 

Such blasphemy!!!

The old 6th ed clanrats are awesome! Sure, they're a pain to rank up, but at least they're poseable (unlike the 7th ed Clanrats, who all seem to be very similar and kind of static).

You just have to learn to get past the "squashed left foot" syndrome. :P

I'd rather be able to rank them up in under 20 seconds! The old monkey-rats are almost impossible to rank up neatly. And they look like monkeys more than rats. Every time I play with my friend's Skaven, it gives me a little more motivation to finish mine.

And while you can't pose them as much, I'm building all my new ones (120 of 'em! ugh!) with shield/spear and you can put the spears at all kinds of weird angles to make the clanrats look pretty nice and dynamic.
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I like both the 6E and the current style. Both have some cool things about them.

I shortened the tails on the 6E ones, it really helped.


The 6E style kinda have that nervous twitchy feeling that fits Skaven though. ;)
Twisted, evil, treacherous, and diabolical rats wielding arcane technologies that are dangerous to foe and friend, that care not for their kin and are constantly plotting against each other. What more need I say about what makes Skaven cool?

My Skaven Blog Updated November 29, 2009. 7:57 PM (-6 GMT)

Have spare little rats from the old clanrats, current plague monks, corpse cart, or individual rats from the doom wheel? PM me. I want them. 30 more needed.
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Jul 18 2010, 11:38 PM
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Jul 18 2010, 10:53 PM
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Jul 18 2010, 12:17 AM

the old clanrats are pretty craptastic.  If you can tolerate the clanrats we had in 6th, you should be alright with them. 

Such blasphemy!!!

The old 6th ed clanrats are awesome! Sure, they're a pain to rank up, but at least they're poseable (unlike the 7th ed Clanrats, who all seem to be very similar and kind of static).

You just have to learn to get past the "squashed left foot" syndrome. :P

I wasn't talking about 6th ed. clanrats. I was talking about the OLD single pose plastics that were in the OP's link. 6th ed. is just fine by me as well. Sorry for the confusion.

MUTATE: my problem with 6th is the tails. ...why must they be so difficult?
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Skavendrool
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"my problem with 6th is the tails. ...why must they be so difficult?"

When I build 6th ed. units, I build each mini in the place it will occupy in the unit, and each figure is marked with a code that tells me which its unit, rank, and file. So ranking them up is not difficult.

Tail amputations will be punished by the Horned Rat.

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Krede
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WAY back when I started playing warhammer, I bought some of the first plastic miniatures that GW released (Warhammer regiments I think its called)... A box where you got ten Dwarfs,Dark elves,goblins, orcs and elves.
Compared to the current models they look like absolute crap!!.. not that they were bad models at the time, as they fit pretty nicely into the range of metal miniatures GW produced at that time....well.. the Darkelves looked like crap even back then, but the rest were actually pretty decent. Particularly the Skaven.

I also got a couple of boxes of the first "all clanrat" plastics, that were good value at the time, but now... looks completely outdated.
The main reason for this is that in the old boxes you get a bunch of identical models... they rank up fine, but just look boring, and to me that was a "dark age" for GW where I think they made appalling models all around (early-mid 90'ies).

When I started up again I got some of the previous edition plastic clan rats. And though they aren't all that "bad" ... I HATE them!! for being so difficult and time consuming to put together and get to rank up!!!... a critical flaw considering how many of the little critters you are going to need !.. to be honest I think I will only make a single unit of 30 or so clan rats.. and then use the rest for conversions and such.

IMHO the new plastics from GW are very good, and the current clan rats are by far the best they have ever made!. so for me I will stick with them.

That being said.
The early skaven metal miniatures are absolutely awesome! (the ones designed by Jess Goodwin). I don't know if its nostalgia, bur to me they embody the skaven "feel" perfectly... and THOSE I would definitely buy If I found some at a reasonably price!


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Jul 21 2010, 04:46 AM
The early skaven metal miniatures are absolutely awesome! (the ones designed by Jess Goodwin). I don't know if its nostalgia, bur to me they embody the skaven "feel" perfectly... and THOSE I would definitely buy If I found some at a reasonably price!

The really old rat ogres are the only skaven models I've seen that were metal and didn't look great. Those look like Mikey went on a 'roid-rage, (which almost redeems them in a way). That's not something I can say of some of the other ranges.
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Not sure about the old RO, I have several mixed into my RO unit and they blend quite nicely in terms of size and sculpt with the new plastics. I didn't think they would work out as well as they did!

I definitely agree that the 6th ed. Clanrats are a pain to put together in ranks, thanks to their huge tails. I tend to use the "if it blocks my ranking, it gets a chop" method for them. Magnetizing bases is a must, as well.
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