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| Snik-Dead | 19th July 2010 - 09:23 AM Post #16 | |
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Angry Bear-Man.
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It will be a pricey horde, but I fully intend to field a QueekStar of 50 Juiced Stormvermin, carrying either the Wailing Banner (For those weaker-willed armies,) or the Razor Standard for Dwarf eating. (3 ranks of WS5, S5, I5 walking into a gaggle of dwarfs, Hitting on 3s, Wounding on 3s and reducing Dwarf save by -3... Yes-yes, Queek will be pleased.) Expensive as all hell, but I'm building a Clan Mors theme army; I don't care! |
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| Ratemis | 19th July 2010 - 10:54 AM Post #17 | |
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Made of 110% Skaven!
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Charge the flank, don't even need to hit the front, and those supporting attacks are gone, those ranks are gone, you have a bonus to combat, and we've got cheap enough troops to throw at the enemy unit until we can get this situation. I don't expect VC to be as scary, perhaps. Limited, and random, power dice and some truly wicked scrolls that almost any army can take and destroy wizards with... magic has an answer to it's own problem. |
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My Skaven Army, now with Testudorats!![]() " However, Bonebreakers have another mark against them now. Going up a hill can kill your warlord if you roll bad. Should call them Neckbreakers "Get down from there! You could fall and break your neck!"" | ||
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| Myth | 19th July 2010 - 12:12 PM Post #18 | |
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Clanrat
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All right, I hit the flank and for one round of combat it's not that scary, but they hold (stubborn white lions on LD 9 from the archmage and unbreakable grave guards) and later they do the "reform amid defeat" trick and the butchery commences. I could try the scroll that deals damage to the caster against the above-mentioned archmage though. The problem is that even when I get rid of the mages, the unit is still perfectly capable of anihilating any of our units in a round or two without taking much damage in return. |
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| SkavenDan | 19th July 2010 - 12:20 PM Post #19 | |
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Doomwheel Fanatic
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How big was your unit? Sounds to me like you need to up the numbers and use horde formation. |
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| WiLDRAGE | 19th July 2010 - 12:43 PM Post #20 | |
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Clanrat
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After playing against Lizardmen wielding Life last night, I'm thinking a Grey Seer + Power Scroll to force through a 13th Spell on the most dangerous unit. I don't like Grey Seers much though as I feel they are overcosted at 240 points since they have no option to learn all spells from a lore (a la Forbidden Lore from VC). | |
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| Patchy | 19th July 2010 - 02:58 PM Post #21 | |
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Chieftain
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meh i feel they are cheap, 240 points naked with d3 warpstone.... | |
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| Skreetz the Fabricator | 19th July 2010 - 04:07 PM Post #22 | |
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Skyre warlock/converter
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IIRC you have to not only roll doubles but also beat the casting value of the spell for IF. I cant remember where I heard that or if it applies to him but perhapse someone else knows. |
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| WiLDRAGE | 19th July 2010 - 05:34 PM Post #23 | |
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Clanrat
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It's in his rules. As a matter of fact, the paragraph that explains that part is in the 1.1 version of the High Elf errata. "In addition, any spell cast by Teclis will be cast with irresistible force on any successful casting roll that is a double, however it will only be considered a miscast if the roll includes a double 6.” |
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| Ratemis | 19th July 2010 - 06:19 PM Post #24 | |
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Made of 110% Skaven!
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Any single one of our units, but that's true of just about any unit in fantasy. We're skaven, we're the under dogs. No one should be able to reach our lines unscathed, and having someone chew into our ranks is nothing new, or big. If they sunk large amounts of points into a single unit, fine, that makes it easier to swarm it! Everyone takes damage in return now. Unless your dice hate you, you can hit anything and wound anything in this edition. |
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My Skaven Army, now with Testudorats!![]() " However, Bonebreakers have another mark against them now. Going up a hill can kill your warlord if you roll bad. Should call them Neckbreakers "Get down from there! You could fall and break your neck!"" | ||
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| Shivan_Angel | 19th July 2010 - 06:21 PM Post #25 | |
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Stormvermin
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This is correct, you must beet the casting value of the spell in order for teclis to have the spell go off. It really needs to be re-written for 8th... If when casting the spell, if he rolls any double (apart from double 6's) the spell cannot be dispelled. If he rolls double 6's treat it as a irresistible force. |
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| Skreetz the Fabricator | 19th July 2010 - 06:26 PM Post #26 | |
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Skyre warlock/converter
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Yay for being right. Successful roll means that he has to roll above the value first
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| Swissdictator | 19th July 2010 - 06:58 PM Post #27 | |
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Steampunk Engineer
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I don't think Rat Swarms are totally useless. Putting 3-4 in front of your cannon might make it harder for fast cav or scouts to charge wildly in. Plus even 4 swarms is nothing for, say, Dark Riders to dismiss blindly. | |
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| Bobtailmaneater | 19th July 2010 - 07:11 PM Post #28 | |
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Grey Seer
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That's what I was thinking. Back in 4th edition I thought nothing of spending 100 points on two swarms. Today for that I can get 4. I know they crumble, but against the right units they don't do all that badly and can hold for a turn or two and take up a lot less room than 50 slaves. Great for drawing out fanatics too
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| WiLDRAGE | 19th July 2010 - 07:23 PM Post #29 | |
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Clanrat
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Plus they can actually wound T6+ stuff now which counterbalances them losing Poison Attacks in the last army book. |
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| WiLDRAGE | 20th July 2010 - 04:21 AM Post #30 | |
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Clanrat
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After reading this, I went to check up on almost all other level 4 wizards and you're are right. Other than Empire and Bretonnia, Grey Seer is cheaper than all the other armies I looked at. So I take it back, he isn't overcosted.
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