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Skaven FAQ Out; 2010
Topic Started: 8th March 2010 - 03:47 PM (8,419 Views)
QueekQueek
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Mar 8 2010, 02:22 PM
I also am delighted at this FAQ, US4 bonebreaker IMO is gona be much better than a war litter just for the fear immunity it gives the unit the lord is in.

One Question, why are ppl happy about the expendible vs template weapons, it was better for us when it caused x amount of hits and then those hits were randomized..or am i missing something??

You're looking at this backwards. Randomization only benefits us if it exists (target your own slaves, randomize into the enemy instead). Now that randomization doesn't exist on such an attack, just don't aim at your slaves. This means fewer of your slaves die.

The only thing it gimps is, if your slaves were in contact with a monstrous mount, then you could previously end up randomizing a ridiculous amount of hits to the MM. This boosts our ability in normal situations, while simultaneously getting rid of an exploit.

MUTATE:::

I forgot to add...

HOLY CRAP! Praise Jesus! Thank God this arrived! And Thank God it's so Skaven friendly too!
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Stripsteak
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CapAmr05
Mar 8 2010, 12:32 PM
To be fair, 2.75 pages are Errata.

:rolleyes:

--Cap

and half of that is replace combat with round of combat
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Lord Pox
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Smashing.

And that's really all I have to say about that.
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C57Black
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With the massive improvement given to Bone Breaker Warlords, I suddenly find myself having to come up with a model for one now. :P
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QueekQueek
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C57Black
Mar 8 2010, 02:52 PM
With the massive improvement given to Bone Breaker Warlords, I suddenly find myself having to come up with a model for one now. :P

He's still a subpar warrior taking up the space that could be used to field an amazingly cool caster ;)

Yet I know the feeling...
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UnderTheEarth
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YES! 1 use only banner and warptokens!

Finally! I don't have to play against a YOU CANT SHOOT LOL army anymore :P
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blader4411
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Templates confirmed to hit everything? :huh:
Now you get the "WE SHOOT TWICE AS MUCH AS YOU" armies :P
I love the FAQ in general, though! :D


-Blader

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Decker_cky
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Wait....they didn't address whether the storm banner affected WLC, Doomwheel and WFT shooting...
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QueekQueek
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Decker_cky
Mar 8 2010, 03:37 PM
Wait....they didn't address whether the storm banner affected WLC, Doomwheel and WFT shooting...

Honestly, I'm not surprised. Read Storm Banner's description closely. There's really no way to misinterpret Storm Banner without adding your own words. It absolutely does not affect non-BS magical shooting. The only skaven shooting it affects is Skaven BS shooting.

Last edition it worked differently. I have no problem understanding storm banner in it's current incarnation, because I don't have last edition muddling my head :)

MUTATE: And if you want to debate the issue, I'd love to try to get this settled, and as such, I've bumped a storm-banner thread so that we don't have to argue it here in the FAQ thread.
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Sniskrak
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Mar 8 2010, 11:30 AM
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Mar 8 2010, 07:13 PM
They have missed one of the big ones.

Dreaded 13th Spell on infantry unit with mounted character in it.  :blink:

They might've answered it when you weren't looking!

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Q. How are casualties from the Curse of the Horned Rat distributed? Can characters in a unit of 5 or more rank and file models be harmed? What if they are mounted on a steed or monster?

A. The casualties are distributed as hits from shooting. If the unit includes characters, just follow the normal rules for shooting hits against such units. However, if the characters in the unit are Unit Strength 5 or more, they are not affected by the spell at all and casualties will fall amongst other models in the unit (just imagine the characters are not there). If the unit is destroyed by the spell, the player controlling the characters must place them anwhere 1" away fomr the newly formed Clanrats, facing in any direction.

I still cannot figure out exactly what they meant by that answer. It sounds like the character is just gonna be left standing there, 1" away. But it could also mean that if you roll high enough to take out the entire unit and the character, he becomes a rat. I did look at the brb rules for shooting at a character in a unit, and it didn't help very much... But I also have an older version of the brb, so it could have been changed in more recent versions.
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Aww... boo, I can't have braces of warplock pistols on non-warlocks anymore :(

Oh, well, small price really compared to life without it. Glad this is out and clarifies nearly all of the issues with the book, in such a rat-friendly way too :)

I guess those assassins got the right rules-writers after all... :pmaster:
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However, if the characters in the unit are Unit Strength 5 or more, they are not affected by the spell at all and casualties will fall amongst other models in the unit


It's saying characters with US5+ within a unit are not effected; so lords on dragons in infantry units are safe (as are our SB/PF mounted heros).


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Q. If a unit is affected by the Curse of the Horned Rat and not entirely destroyed, who choses which models are removed as casualties?

A.  The player controlling the affected unit.  Normally, characters and champions are more resilient than normal rank-and-files to the mutating effects of the curse.


US<5 Characters are still subject to the mutation.

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Sniskrak
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US<5 Characters are still subject to the mutation.


Whew, thanks for clearing that up. That's what I originally had thought as well, but the last question made me doubt.
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For a second it looks like the 'bad writing bug' had bitten them in their answer, but poised next to another CotHR question it looks like that's exactly what they meant to say.... although it looks like they didn't fully answer the question asked of them and instead went on a monster tangent.

They ignored this piece (but I think did an 'ok' job covering it in the other question I posted):
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Can characters in a unit of 5 or more rank and file models be harmed?



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carcharoth
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apparently having your t3 elf on a dragon magically makes him T6 vs. PCBs... ridiculous.
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