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1500 Starter Army
Topic Started: 26th February 2010 - 12:16 AM (267 Views)
lordsigmund
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Ok, read around a bit and tried to come up with an OK army for my first 1500 points. Comments/Suggestions would be greatly appreciated:

Plague Priest Level 2, Flail, Foul Pendant, Plague Furnace 319 points
with 27 Plague Monks Standard, Musician, Storm Banner 254 points

Chieftan BSB, Shield, Tail Weapon 80 points
and Warlock Engineer Level 1, Warp Energy Condenser, Dispel Scroll 110 points
with 28 Clanrats Full Command, Shields, Warpfire Thrower 216 points

21 Giant Rats with 4 Packmasters 95 points

21 Giant Rats with 4 Packmasters 95 points

21 Slaves 42 points

21 Slaves 42 points

6 Plague Censer bearers 96 points

Doomwheel 150 points


1499 points
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Lord Pox
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lordsigmund
Feb 26 2010, 01:16 AM
Ok, read around a bit and tried to come up with an OK army for my first 1500 points.

Hmm, this looks like a skaven army to me, not an OK army . . . (sorry, terrible joke)

Anyway, this looks like a fine first 1500 pt list. Nothing wrong with it, so there's nothing I think you need to change. As an observations, at 1500 pts stormbanner is quite expensive, although obviously if you regularly face shooting armies, it's more than worth it. If you don't, consider dropping it for a couple of rat darts - you have a lot of good sized units, so you could absorb the occassional shooting of armies that don't focus on it, and the darts can be very useful to support your large ranked units.
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lordsigmund
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Feb 26 2010, 07:46 AM
lordsigmund
Feb 26 2010, 01:16 AM
Ok, read around a bit and tried to come up with an OK army for my first 1500 points.

Hmm, this looks like a skaven army to me, not an OK army . . . (sorry, terrible joke)

Anyway, this looks like a fine first 1500 pt list. Nothing wrong with it, so there's nothing I think you need to change. As an observations, at 1500 pts stormbanner is quite expensive, although obviously if you regularly face shooting armies, it's more than worth it. If you don't, consider dropping it for a couple of rat darts - you have a lot of good sized units, so you could absorb the occassional shooting of armies that don't focus on it, and the darts can be very useful to support your large ranked units.

forgive my ignorance but I'm new to warhammer, a rat dart is a small giant rat pack right? what are they useful for?

I also noticed I have another special slot I haven't used, would it be worth dropping a core choice to fill it? maybe a giant rat unit for some more PCBs or jezzails even
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Yes, rat darts are 1 packmaster and 5 giant rats. They have various uses, but I guess the principal one is that they're an extremely cheap unit that is still US6 and therefore capable of negating ranks with a flank charge. They are called darts because they are often deployed in single file, making them extremely maneuverable, and usually able to get on a flank. (note they're also relatively fast). Your opponent probably won't charge them, they're not worth much - and if he does, he opens himself up for a flank charge from one of your big units.
Other than that, they're an incredibly cheap unit for any purposes :) Sacrificial screens, harrassers, annoying obstacles, etc. You can use them with impunity, since if they take 2 casualties (forcing a test) and break, they're then under US5 and won't cause panic in other units.

PCBs and Jezzails are both worth their weight in gold, so by all means - but if you start to reduce numbers in your (at the moment) horde army, it will change your tactics a bit, and stormbanner starts to look more important again.
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lordsigmund
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Well I wasn't particularly aiming for a horde list, but most topics I see that dont have a lot of models generally get picked out for that.

If I replaced one of the giant rat units with 4 jezzails with one upgraded to a sharpshooter and kept the storm banner would that still work well then?
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lordsigmund
Feb 28 2010, 10:05 PM
Well I wasn't particularly aiming for a horde list, but most topics I see that dont have a lot of models generally get picked out for that.

Sorry, I didn't mean to assume a playstyle - by horde I meant that you have 4 big blocks of ranked models (25+), with some slave units; even if you didn't aim for it, these will all have decent static CR, which is horde-style.

lordsigmund
Feb 28 2010, 10:05 PM
If I replaced one of the giant rat units with 4 jezzails with one upgraded to a sharpshooter and kept the storm banner would that still work well then?

Yes, I think that would work fine. Be aware that Stormbanner will affect your jezzails too while it's in effect.
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