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Budget skaven help requested; Conversion questions
Topic Started: 24th February 2010 - 10:10 PM (672 Views)
Vidar


Hello all, I'm new here and looking for getting together an army, and since I'd like to go both the budget and conversion ways, I thought it'd be a good idea to ask for help here.
First idea was to get my jezzails, censer bearers, hell pit abomination and weapon teams out of the batallions. You know: 2clanrats+shield and gun=jezzail, plaguemonk with flail and such = pcb, rat ogre with gun arm, tubes and cannister = poison wind mortar, all the other rat ogres and a lot of green/greystuff=HPA.
Are there any tutorials and further ideas on this?

Other idea I bumped into was using the heaps of empire/dwarfs/high elves around here to build an army from the decadent slums from the empire, using skaven-rules.
I'm still looking for good ideas on those, though. Or ideas for other kinds of themes using skaven-rules.

I'm not really fuzzy about it, I just wanted those crazy and chaotic rules for fun.
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Hello and welcome, Vidar, knowledge doesn't come cheap here so let's see those warpstone tokens :P ... Quick, he fell for it, grab his tokens and run-run!.

Anyway, joking aside, you can definitely do it this way; Plague censers are dead easy to convert from plague monks since you get a censer on each frame, finding long enough guns for jezzails may be a problem, you could try hochland long rifles or kroot rifles with the blades clipped, and you may want to extend the shields a bit to make them look like pavises (either plasticard or stick a couple of the triangular ones together). Rather than green the entire A-bomb you may want to base it on a giant or other big creature and add details to it. Your poison wind mortar is interesting, but wouldn't it be more like a warpfire thrower?

Well, hope this helps, and good luck with your skaven!
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Vidar


I noticed that everybody sees their HPA's as gigantesque things on chariot bases, but for some reason I was more thinking of them as monster-based. If I were to go for the chariot base, I'll be making more of a wurm thing, I think.
Another idea for the poison wind mortars: Rat ogre with a skull pass cannon for head and a little dude standing on his back or behind him with globes.

No ideas for the other-themed-but-using-skaven-rules armies, by the way?
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I've seen a couple of wurm based HPA's around here and they are very cool but do require some sculpting skill. You might be able to base it on a trygon but then you're going for the budget option so it's not ideal. I think the cannon would look better for the mortar, the larger calibre seems more appropriate. I also take it that you're theming around clan Moulder, what with all the rat ogres (I'm a Skryre man myself :globe: ).

As for alternative races as skaven, I can't see dwarfs or elves acting like rats. Humans could work since skaven are based on human vices taken to the extreme, and there's lots of fluff with men working with skaven. Noblars and gobbos may be other good alternatives.
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Vidar


Actually, I'm more into skryre myself too, but if I were to base everything on 3-4 batallion boxes, I really need a good purpose for the rats. So maybe 4 with the shooty arm and 4 with mortar-heads for 8 weapon teams could be a good purpose.
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Making skaven into weapon teams isnt that hard. I am using one plague monk and a packmaster for a warpfire thrower team. For jezzails though its a bit harder. Most of the bodies look like they would be wrong other than clanrat bodies, and most of the time you would be better off using clanrats as clanrats because you will need a lot of clanrats.

I dont know how well a rat ogre would work as a weapon of any kind though. Weapon teams are on a horse base (25x50 I think) and the ogre is on an ogre base (40x40 i think).

I dont know how easy a HPA is to make from some rat ogres. I would think it would be better to use something else as a base and convert it to your standards (my plan is use two high elf lions on one base with extra heads and generally mutated).

Using the other units would probably work really well for slaves. Find the best deal/model based on a 20mm base (I would think the starter set's goblins would be cheapest on e-bay or such.) and you can get some cheaper slaves and save some money that way.
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Ace0fskulls
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Ill keep this short.

ive seen jezzails made with kroot rifles, with a little sniped at the end. add some rust, they look pretty damn good. Ebay is a blessing and theers a site which sell bist whos name i cant remember,
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Vidar
Feb 24 2010, 05:10 PM
to build an army from the decadent slums from the empire,

This sounds like a good idea, though I don't think you can have decadent slums. Decadency and abject squallor don't normally go together. But I get what you are saying.

Obvious recommendation, use left over miniatures from other armies as slaves.

Don't buy the metal blister packs to get Globadiers or Jezzails or whatever, convert them from plastic Clanrats. Track down some old 'monkey rats' if you want it even cheaper.

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either the dungeons and dragons purple worm mini(pre-painted if painting isn't your thing), or the reaper purple worm model are fairly cheap models and about the right size.
The best way to configure an army is to go play demons.-Nevamore Posted on Nov 6 2009, 04:02 PM

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If you want to field a clanrat unit 30 rats strong, but you don't want to have to buy another box of clanrats, you could always use unit fillers.
A unit filler is a scenic piece that fills up space in a unit, and counts as as many models as it is filling in for. Here's a great example of one

http://underempire.net/index.php?showtopic=27166

If your converting skills are up to the challenge, you can do something as creative as the link above's unit filler. If you want something simple, just have a clanrat standing on a rock, or two rats fighting each other.
Using a unit filler will allow you to save a few models to use for other purposes (such as making those jezzials you spoke of earlier)


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