| WarpfireThrower; How do you define "Any Target" | |
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| Tweet Topic Started: 25th December 2009 - 11:17 AM (333 Views) | |
| Mahtobedis | 25th December 2009 - 11:17 AM Post #1 |
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The Warpfire Throwers rules to fire says that it can fire at any target in LOS. I was wondering what can be defined as a target. Two obvious ones for me are friendly and enemy units but there are other thing which I'm not sure actually count as targets. 1) Can you target a combat? 2) Can you target a terrain feature? 3) Can you target any point on the map that happens to be in LOS? 4) Can you target something that is obviously out of range? I think the answer to all but the third one is yes but I'm not sure. P.S. This is a thought idea. I little to no intention of actually doing any of this I'm just curious as to what the implications of the warpfire throwers awkward phrasing on its rules is. |
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| Black Death | 25th December 2009 - 11:43 AM Post #2 |
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Dead-Eye Squeekish
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There's nothing to suggest that Warpfire Throwers are able to shoot at anything outside of standard shooting rules. Your target is one enemy unit, not in combat within reasonable range. The only exception to this is Skavenslaves as listed in their unit description. |
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| Mahtobedis | 25th December 2009 - 12:03 PM Post #3 |
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I would agree with you whole heartedly but it since the rules actually bothered to say "any target" instead enemy target, enemy unit, or just target makes me think that its targeting rules are a bit more flexible. |
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| wolfatbar | 25th December 2009 - 01:39 PM Post #4 |
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Die! Die! Every-things!
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I think it's pretty simple and generally follows most artillery rules: you simply point it at the enemy unit that you want to roast, pull the trigger to squirt, and hope it doesn't misfire. You can only 'aim at' at unit that is in combat if the unit (of yours) that it is in combat with is a slave unit (or units). So: re#1- No, unless it's slaves (and then the answer is "yes", and all hits are randomized 50/50 between the slaves and the enemy unit, making this a brilliant weapon against multi-wound models). Also, if there is an enemy unit quite close to the WFT and you happen to squirt a long shot (10" on artillery dice, for example) and 'overshoot' into a combat that involves a non-slave Skaven unit, then that's OK (similar to a mortar scattering over a combat) [in this case models touched are models hit, no random splitting of hits is needed or done]. Note that you still can't actually target slaves. But you can target enemy units that are engaged with slaves. This means that the crew needs to have LOS to the enemy unit and that the flame template should generally be lined up at the middle of the enemy unit, and not at the middle of the slave unit. Of course, if the enemy target is a 'large target' then it doesn't really matter how many slaves are in the way... you'll always have LOS ![]() re#2- I guess. Point and squirt. But why would you want to?!? Are there rules for burning down trees? I don't think there are. But that would help against Wood Elves for sure... re#3- Again, I guess so. Can you be more specific? What are you trying to accomplish? You can't 'target a point on the map' knowing that the shot is going to hit a combat that involves a non-slave Skaven unit. re#4- No, not really. If it's obviously out of range then you can't really target it. I'm not really sure, this is another strange question. Again, what are you trying to accomplish by this? Want to hit something that's not in line-of-sight, or what?!? |
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| Mahtobedis | 25th December 2009 - 02:03 PM Post #5 |
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Sorry I guess I should have clarified that I was thinking from a win at all costs perspective. It isn't how I play but it is how I think. The objective would be to drop a template on a combat. I realize this is bad sportsmanship, which is why I would probably never do it. Out of curiosity why is it that a combat can not be a target? I really do appreciate the clarification. I wasn't able to find a definition for target in the BRB. |
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| Bibamus | 25th December 2009 - 02:04 PM Post #6 |
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Grey Seer
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by targetting a forest for example you could hit a unit thats hidden in it and out of LoS... its not very friendly what you are trying to do. |
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It would be ugly to watch people poking sticks at a caged rat. It is uglier still to watch rats poking sticks at a caged person. 13th spell casts: 2 Kills: 32 Grave Guard,1 Vampire Lord | |
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| Mahtobedis | 25th December 2009 - 02:14 PM Post #7 |
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As I said in my previous post and have no mutated my original post to say, this is just how I think I don't actually plan on doing it. I'm more curios as to whether or not it is possible. |
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