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| Tweet Topic Started: 20th December 2009 - 10:14 PM (898 Views) | |
| I_ated_Warpstone | 20th December 2009 - 10:14 PM Post #1 |
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So, I'm interested in building a mono Nurgle DoC army as a side project. I enjoy painting Nurgle, have some interesting conversion ideas, and own a Forge World Greater Demon of Nurgle. So with all that said, UE I need some help! I don't want this list to be for tearing up other armies or making my opponents cry I want it to be atleast enjoyable to play against. Here are the limitations I have thus far: -No duplicate gifts - duplicate gifts are often the source of many problems in DoC lists -Stay away from abusive BSB banners - another source of issue with many DoC lists -Strictly mono Nurgle - no snagging some flamers to add shooting support So what else should I stay away from? What else do you see that I can do to make this army manageable for my opponents? |
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| SiliconSicilian | 20th December 2009 - 10:21 PM Post #2 |
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One tip I can offer is that Epidemius makes a mono-nurgle army pretty hard, but still beatable. I still think you need him in the list if you want the game to be enjoyable and themed, though. From the different times I have seen mono-nurgle, an army not running Epimedius has not been that strong, especially if it didn't bring the stubborn banner. |
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| chieftainskritchskritch | 21st December 2009 - 06:12 AM Post #3 |
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Well, truth be told, i have to vote the mono-nurgle lists as the HARDEST of the mono-mark DoC armies (with slaanesh coming a close second). All those 5+ ward/4+ regen saves (from the heralds) arent going to make you any friends. If you want to make the army more manageable for your opponents, i suggest the following: * Stay away from the "extra combat res for poisoned wounds" banner. * Dont make all your heralds wizards on palaquins. Having multiple "all models touching me are WS 1" spam spells will p*ss people off big time. * DONT give your heralds slime trail upgrades. Let your opponent get flank/rear bonuses. Lets face it, you arent going anywhere anyway. * No Great Unclean One with plague sword or nurgling spawn ability. A GUO is annoying as it is with its 10 wounds. Dont make it a primary focus point for your opponent. He will NEVER kill it. Especially if you go for regen upgrade. * DO NOT TAKE KU-GATH PLAGUEFATHER!!!! His throwing attack is obscene. Apart from that, you'll be fine. ... Well, fine enough for daemons anyway.
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| You kids these days have it so easy, what with your Plague Furnaces and your Hellpit Abominations and your Bonebreaker Warlords. Back in MY day, all we had was Slaves and Clanrats!...and auto-hit Ratling Guns...and skirmishing Jezzails...and 2D6 Warp Lightning...and Lead From The Back...wait, what was my arguement again? | |
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| SiliconSicilian | 21st December 2009 - 04:17 PM Post #4 |
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I agree with everything just said. However, the less points you put into these items is going to expand the size of your army. That may make it seem far filthier than it is. Encourage your opponent that you are running a "fun" list and you took out all the hard stuff. Again, mono-nurgle is the hardest mono daemon army. |
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| I_ated_Warpstone | 21st December 2009 - 04:38 PM Post #5 |
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I know mono Nurgle is pretty hard but I have that forge world model and I don't play 40k that often anymore. So I'm thinking Level 3 GUO, 2 Caster Heralds, 1 BSB Herald who is not a caster, lots o' plague bearers, maybe some beasts of Nurgle? How bad do you think Palanquins are? Would it be OK to take one for each herald or are they too much? |
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| bakfire the experimenter | 21st December 2009 - 04:49 PM Post #6 |
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well on the plus side you are not taking the named characters and a GUO.... i suppose the one question i have is what armies do you normally play against?? if your normall opponents have the ability to deal with plague bearers the go for the palanquin.... there are armies like wood elves and possibly skaven (havent tried the new list against the daemon book yet) that may struggle against plague bearers as they are so the palanquin on top might be a bit much... as to beasts of nurgle - if you are taking a mono list then i feel you should have representation from every possible core / special / rare choice... other wise you are taking a plague bearer list |
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| Bibamus | 21st December 2009 - 07:00 PM Post #7 |
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agreed, diversity is necessary to at least show your good intent towards your oponenets. also go for everything that looks good (models) without much thought of usefulness, that way even if you win most games it won't be as bad. and lets face it, no flamers or BT is allready at friendly level
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| SiliconSicilian | 21st December 2009 - 07:14 PM Post #8 |
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Personally, I think flamers suck if you know how to play against them... but this is a nurgle discussion. I say go with the palanquin because you want a beautiful army, I'm assuming. Palanquins make your characters stand out. |
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| Edit | 22nd December 2009 - 05:08 PM Post #9 |
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I like the nurgling spitting out ability of the GUO too, yea it probably can be a bit abusive, but i think its very fluffy/in theme. |
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| deathmaster riddick | 22nd December 2009 - 09:09 PM Post #10 |
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first of all, thanks for not being a typical daemon player. now then here are my suggestions(aside from all the great ones that have been mentioned) -if you must use a BSB take the banner of hellfire. they're all pretty brutal but i think this one is the nicest - throw in some nurglings. they're pretty easy to deal with, and should add variety to your army. - don't make gigantic plague bearer deathstars. the only advantage we have is demonic instability, don't take that away by making close combat unwinnable. |
The best way to configure an army is to go play demons.-Nevamore Posted on Nov 6 2009, 04:02 PM
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| Riktikticheck | 22nd December 2009 - 11:15 PM Post #11 |
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well i personally think the basic army you get from doing mono nurgle is just fine for friendly games as long as you don't overdo the characters. something like 3 boxes of bearers with herald 2 units of 3-4 nurglings 1 units of 1-2 beasts and maby some furies (if nurglesque enough) i would probably not take a GUO but would likely upgrade all heralds to lvl 1 mage for the dispelldice and migh even go for staff of nurgle as the ranged option of the army (altho some might dislike that aproach) but i think they would generally hate noxious vapour more especially if you'd go with palanquins. now the mono nurgle is slow and cumbersome but will be a tough opponent regardless, but something most can deal with as you lack the big nastiness that BT, flamers, flesh hounds and the stubborn banner bring to the table(as long as you stay away from that banner). might not be the friendliest army to face (fear, itp etc) but is far from the worst, as about any army can have a nastier build than this (just about any tournament army) |
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| I_ated_Warpstone | 22nd December 2009 - 11:57 PM Post #12 |
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Just can't stomach that. As I said I have the Forge World GUO model and I will use it. So - here's my mock up list at the moment. Great Unclean One - Level 3, Trappings of Nurgle, Noxious Vapors, Slime Trail He's level 3 mostly for the extra dispel die. I plan on using him for flanking and the like, I chose to stay away from the Staff of Nurgle as I want that elsewhere in my list and I don't want duplicate gifts Herald - Level 1, Palanquin, Stream of Bile, Soul Hunger A simple Herald who provides a decent amount of combat support for his unit and a dispel die Herald - Level 1, Palanquin, Nurgle's Rot, Soul Hunger Another basic herald, this one provides his unit some "I hit you before you hit me" power. I know I duplicated a gift but Soul Hunger doesn't seem so bad. Herald - BSB, Palanquin, Staff of Nurgle, Banner of Unholy Victory This is my BSB with the Staff of Nurgle, I like the staff but don't want more than one because it feels abusive I think. 14x Plague Bearers - Full Command 14x Plague Bearers - Full Command 14x Plague Bearers - Full Command 1x Beast of Nurgle 1x Beast of Nurgle Thoughts? |
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| Bibamus | 23rd December 2009 - 12:32 AM Post #13 |
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never played demons so i can't comment on the (un)friendlyness of the list but nurglings seem pretty fluffy and not such a big threat |
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It would be ugly to watch people poking sticks at a caged rat. It is uglier still to watch rats poking sticks at a caged person. 13th spell casts: 2 Kills: 32 Grave Guard,1 Vampire Lord | |
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| Riktikticheck | 23rd December 2009 - 04:53 AM Post #14 |
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seems ok to me, i would like to see even 1 unit of nurglings, but that is just personal opinion. and sorry about the guo, had allready forgotten about what you said when i had gottan past the general typing.. (it was a bit late in the evening ;D) sadly the easiest way i see you getting 3 nurglings is for guo to drop to lvl 1 and dropping vapours aswell (well that is 110 so depends on how tight the points really were) and i am not sure that would be worth it. |
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| I_ated_Warpstone | 23rd December 2009 - 04:58 AM Post #15 |
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I don't really like the nurgling models honestly. I think I'm going to skip them. While they are papa nurgle's children I think I'll have to skip them at the moment. |
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