| Blood Bowl Rules Committee change; Tom Anders (Galak) forced to step down | |
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| Skaven Lord Vinshqueek | 20th December 2009 - 07:41 PM Post #1 |
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Yes, this could have been posted in the Specialist Games section as well, but since this reflects on the current actions of Grandma Wendy (both on management level and from out of the legal department), I thought this might be just as well suited in the General Wargaming section. ... and for those that don't know what this is about, just read the following. Greetz ____________________________________________________________________ URL: http://www.talkfantasyfootball.org/viewtop...hp?f=20&t=29466
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| Morkskittar | 20th December 2009 - 09:34 PM Post #2 |
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| Yobtar | 20th December 2009 - 11:27 PM Post #3 |
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I dont think they understand the magnitude of the popularity of any of their games besides 40k and fantasy. Some of my favorite games to have gone by the wayside (aka Specialist range) EPIC Space Marine (the old version with command chits) NECROMUNDA (best game GW ever made imo) Blood Bowl (2nd best ever) Mordheim (not one of my favs but still fun to play) BFG (same as Mordheim) Talisman Heroquest |
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| Milney | 20th December 2009 - 11:38 PM Post #4 |
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So all the rediculous "clamping down" (which isn't really correct, as most of the action being taken is un-founded in law) on the internet is due to a new head of legal? That makes me laugh. Out of nothing but the hope that the company doesn't fail in the immediate future, I hope they come to thier senses and either set her straight or fire her soon. Workshop has already been suffering some pretty major losses in its overseas ventures, and despite gearing up for a new surge in the UK, it's actually in a fairly bad position. Having the head of thier legal department kick out someone who devoted so much time (and creative effort) into maintaining such an iconic game is rediculous. Yes I know he's not angry, and I'm happy that he's not holding a grudge, but the sole reason for this, is that as a volunteer he most likely hadn't signed a contract stating his IP was owned by the company (as all GW employees do) and so with her somewhat limited knowledge of the law (as demonstrated by her recent action against websites) probably thought he was a risk of walking off with said IP and so prompted the removal. Just sad. The company was formed off the back of veterans who pitched in, gave free lessons to people, guided them how to model and as Galak demonstrated even writing the source material. As much as GW wants to position itself as some independant creative powerhouse it's just shooting itself in the foot. Still, glad that LRB6.0 should still make it out as he wrote it. Just a shame it was heralded by this... |
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| Ratemis | 20th December 2009 - 11:47 PM Post #5 |
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I think it's a BS thing for them to do. However, Jervis mentioning that online following doesn't equal real-life following is true, and they are a company that has to justify their costs. However, they're doing things very very stupidly. Blood Bowl has a good chance of being a very popular game, just about a sub-main-stream kids/teens game. I'm really frustrated with the very sorry quality of questions that get thrown out at QA sessions, and someone needs to stand up and ask them why they're killing specialist games and punishing their support online. |
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| Ratemis | 20th December 2009 - 11:50 PM Post #6 |
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This has been happening for a long long time. A new legal head is nothing, but they all want to justify their paychecks (and indeed in a corporation they'll need to to keep that position). |
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| Skaven Lord Vinshqueek | 21st December 2009 - 01:38 PM Post #7 |
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Milney, things are a bit more complicated then the way you put it. Tom Anders is the head of Impact! Miniatures. This company produces miniatures for the fantasy football range, though many were used for Blood Bowl (not to forget the fact that they've supplied various Blood Bowl tournaments with a limited set of give-away models). Up to this point, I can fully understand that there's a conflict of interest that comes up... However, the IP of the Blood Bowl game has always been of Games Workshop. Even for artwork/ background submitted for the LRB, it was mentioned in advance that all rights would immediately go towards Grandma Wendy (which was one of the reasons why I didn't try my hand at writing a bit of background for some of the starplayers). In that regard, I find it harsh that they've put someone out of the BBRC like the way they've done. ESPECIALLY, someone like Tom Anders who is a fairly known figure amongst the (global) Blood Bowl tournament scene. ... which brings me to the 'quote' Ratemis mentioned of Jervis Johnson regarding the online community. Yes, there will propably be less people from the online community then there are gamers in total. (While he doesn't provide numbers, impossible as it might seem, neither can we, so the actual difference remains vague at best). The 'problem' with Blood Bowl in this case is that with the banishment of the game from the GW stores (fact from experience in the Netherlands), people go look for a secondary option, which eventually is the internet. So there will propably be more Blood Bowl coaches then you can find online, but the real 'hardcore' tournament gamers ARE online and for the past few months, Grandma Wendy is really doing her utmost best of pissin' them off badly. Greetz |
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| Ratemis | 21st December 2009 - 01:58 PM Post #8 |
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Thus I welcome you to the lives of the Dogs of War, Chaos Dwarf, Necromunda, and Mordheim veterans. All of which have had such crackdowns several times over the last four years, several site, content, faq, and pdf removals, and such. Like I said, nothing new. A new suit to try and prove their paycheck with paper results that result in player misery. |
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| Gaz Taylor | 21st December 2009 - 02:07 PM Post #9 |
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Pretty much my thoughts as well. I know GW have to protect their IP but there has to be more fan friendly ways of doing it? |
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| Ratemis | 21st December 2009 - 10:47 PM Post #10 |
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Not really, from what I've seen. The idea of uploading copyrighted matertial to the internet for download doesn't register as a bad idea for many people, and I've gotten into many an e-argument with people to that effect. I've been there as multiple sites got slapped with C&Ds and had to be taken down for long periods to remove copyrighted content. With the number of people and the number of sites you can find every day who are, wittingly or unwittingly, giving away copyrighted materials they have to be hard. How the site managers choose to react is up to them. I'd still prefer it if GW would open release a lot of their material that they no longer freely offer or support on their site (several articles, multiple FAQs, some PDF army lists, ect). However, it's still entirely their decision. |
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