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Topic Started: 19th November 2009 - 08:10 AM (370 Views)
Fenris
Chieftain
Okay, so i've been playing warhammer for many years and have avoided the rat-things because of horrible models and and I hate playing against them. But with the new models I decided that it was someone elses turn to dread playing me.
I have many army's under my belt so I'm no novice to the game.
Here is my list for dual furnace tourney shinnagins.

Characters
Warlord
warlock augment weapon
shield of distraction
rival hide talisman
two warplock pistols (Can I do this?)
Bone crusher
236
Plaque priest
furnace
flail
piebaldpipes
279
plage priest
furnace
flail
254

704

core
3 units of 25 slaves 150

3 units of CR w/shield, standard, and musc
374

GR 23

GR 23

573

special
30 plague monks Champ, standard

230

plague monks (same)
230

7 Censor Bearers 125

8 Jezzails + sharp shooter team
170

755


Rare
doom wheel 150


2247 total

Please be overly critical




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Fenris
Chieftain
Dang CR are 25 strong
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It is in vain, sir, to extenuate the matter. Gentlemen may cry, Peace, Peace--but there is no peace. The war is actually begun! The next gale that sweeps from the north will bring to our ears the clash of resounding arms! Our brethren are already in the field! Why stand we here idle? What is it that gentlemen wish? What would they have? Is life so dear, or peace so sweet, as to be purchased at the price of chains and slavery? Forbid it, Almighty God! I know not what course others may take; but as for me, give me liberty or give me death! March 23, 1775- Patrick Henry
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Riktikticheck
Warlord
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Characters
Warlord
warlock augment weapon
shield of distraction
rival hide talisman
two warplock pistols (Can I do this?)
Bone crusher
236

I would say that buying 2 of the pistols is a no-no but i think there is a debate going about it. personally i don't think the warlock augument is actually worth the points paying 25 points for 1 more attacks seems a bit iffy.
I like the litter more than the RO as it can't be killed and you even get +1 armor save.
My take on defencive warlord: enchanted shield, foul pendant (rather 5+ ward than 1 time reroll to hit) tail weapon, poison attacks, litter. 188 points comes with 1 less attacks than your warlord, much less str tho but the attacks he makes himself are poisonous. also he has 1+ armor save and 5+ ward (could take warpstone armor for the hit reflecting too - would be 211 with that and shield)
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Plaque priest
furnace
flail
piebaldpipes
279

not sure about the pipes, i almost would think the -ld item would serve a better purpose (rather let him come and help him break)
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plage priest
furnace
flail
254

a nice item option for priest is scrying stone as it is cheap and potentially makes a huge difference in his wounds.

i would pick a bsb for your warlords unit as he can't join one of the furnace units picking either one of the damaging banners.
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core
3 units of 25 slaves 150

3 units of 25 CR w/shield, standard, and musc
374

GR (5+1) 23

GR (5+1) 23

573

i like my clanrats 30 strong ang my slaves 21 strong but who am i to judge
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special
30 plague monks Champ, standard

230

30 plague monks Champ, standard
230

7 Censor Bearers 125

8 Jezzails + sharp shooter team
170

755

not sure about the Jezzails i think there couls be more usefull things to get with those points (bsb being one). i also trie not to leave the den without a pack of gutters as they are so usefull and relatively cheap too
also picking the other one of the damaging banners for the other plaguemonks would be a good idea (only one of them gets a banner
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Rare
doom wheel 150


i like the combination of doomwheel and cannon they seem to give a nice balance of shooting with melee bashing, but there is always the point toal to consider
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Fenris
Chieftain
Thank you. That is the kind of imput I need. I like the jezzails because were I play, I got every to follow my lead on the all cav WoC. They have trashed my army before and while I cursed and swore at the blighters, I secretly admired their destructive power. I was thinking about an abomination, but i think that will be a little much for people to handle.
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It is in vain, sir, to extenuate the matter. Gentlemen may cry, Peace, Peace--but there is no peace. The war is actually begun! The next gale that sweeps from the north will bring to our ears the clash of resounding arms! Our brethren are already in the field! Why stand we here idle? What is it that gentlemen wish? What would they have? Is life so dear, or peace so sweet, as to be purchased at the price of chains and slavery? Forbid it, Almighty God! I know not what course others may take; but as for me, give me liberty or give me death! March 23, 1775- Patrick Henry
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so are multiple stegadon lists / dragon and hydra lists but you still see a lot of these at tournies so go for the abomination
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Fenris
Chieftain
You make a convincing argument. I will have to experiment with it and points haggle it.
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It is in vain, sir, to extenuate the matter. Gentlemen may cry, Peace, Peace--but there is no peace. The war is actually begun! The next gale that sweeps from the north will bring to our ears the clash of resounding arms! Our brethren are already in the field! Why stand we here idle? What is it that gentlemen wish? What would they have? Is life so dear, or peace so sweet, as to be purchased at the price of chains and slavery? Forbid it, Almighty God! I know not what course others may take; but as for me, give me liberty or give me death! March 23, 1775- Patrick Henry
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also he has 1+ armor save


As someone pointed out to me earlier, he looses Handweapon/Shield bonus when mounted, it's a 2+ save.

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Riktikticheck
Warlord
oh right you are - how silly of me ;) well then there is no big reason not to use magic weapon, but i still think warlock enchanted is not worth it. i think warpforged would be way more usefull, as you allready have litter attacks etc so if you want to hit make them non-saved.
(so wraforged pendant and enchanted shield with litter and tailweapon if you really want to use the last 10 points)
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Tenoshii
Warlord
Riktikticheck
Nov 19 2009, 10:38 AM
oh right you are - how silly of me ;) well then there is no big reason not to use magic weapon, but i still think warlock enchanted is not worth it. i think warpforged would be way more usefull, as you allready have litter attacks etc so if you want to hit make them non-saved.
(so wraforged pendant and enchanted shield with litter and tailweapon if you really want to use the last 10 points)

Personally I'd prefer the WAW to the Warpforged blade in an all round list. Warpforged Blade only has an advantage against enemies with a 4+ save or better, and even then you have one less attack and are wounding on one higher. Unless I was facing an army with a lot of heavy cavalry or 2+ save infantry then I'd go for the WAW.
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