| Plague Furnace Question; ?? | |
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| Tweet Topic Started: 10th November 2009 - 03:36 AM (518 Views) | |
| Lixit | 10th November 2009 - 03:36 AM Post #1 |
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So, I just picked up the new book & I'm very excited to say the least... Question I have though about the plague furnace. The "mount" has a attack profile of 6 which represents 3 plague monks w/ add. hand weapons. The mount is also frenzied. Now you probably know where I'm going, but would the furnace get 9 attacks w/ the frenzy or just the +1=7 that I'm sure the rules dictate?... I'm really thinking the +1 per monk is just being greedy but hey, why not mix it up... Lixit. |
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| outbreak | 10th November 2009 - 04:15 AM Post #2 |
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I was under the understand it's treated as 1 model so would get 1 attack |
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| chieftainskritchskritch | 10th November 2009 - 05:14 AM Post #3 |
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I believe that that's the case too. 1 model profile = 1 attack. If it specifically stated that it had a separate crew of 3 monks (and thus they could be killed off), THEN I would argue +1 for each monk. |
| You kids these days have it so easy, what with your Plague Furnaces and your Hellpit Abominations and your Bonebreaker Warlords. Back in MY day, all we had was Slaves and Clanrats!...and auto-hit Ratling Guns...and skirmishing Jezzails...and 2D6 Warp Lightning...and Lead From The Back...wait, what was my arguement again? | |
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| FatherSquee | 10th November 2009 - 08:40 AM Post #4 |
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Holder of Clan Pestilens "Most Sexiest" Award
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The whole thing is treated as a single model, so it would only get +1 Attack for frenzy |
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| myemofriend | 15th November 2009 - 09:42 AM Post #5 |
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I have a couple questions on the furnace myself and hope you all can help. 1. the plague furnace gives its unit and the plague priest unbreakable but if theres nothing left but the furnace itself can it break? and if it does how do you resolve it when it has a movement of 0 at this point. 2. the plague furnace has a leadership of '-' if it is forced to roll an leadership test ( say by a blade of realities) does it auto fail, use someone elses init, or succeed on a 1? 3. if I use the banner that lets all plague monk models reroll to hit and to wounds does that apply to the 7 attacks from the furnaces crew? |
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| Stregone | 17th November 2009 - 08:03 AM Post #6 |
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I have some questions regarding the plague furnace, some are the same as myemofriend here. it says, in the "icon of The Horned Rat" that "...the plague priest and the unit of plague monks pushing the foul device are unbreakable..." does this include the funace it self? if the entire unit of plague monks pushing it and the priest are killed, and the only model left is the furnace, AND if it's not unbreakable. does it autobreak as it has a ld of -? is the furnace auto killed if it, for some reason, has to take a ld test? as from the Blade of Realities is the furnace a monsterous mount? if so if the priest is killed, is the furnace ejected/auto killed? does it have to make a enshrouded by fog or wrecker attack, or can it just do nothing? is the enshrouded by fog attack an auto attack, as the plague cencer gas attacks? if not, can it make both? cheers! Streg |
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| Nemesis | 20th November 2009 - 08:00 AM Post #7 |
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Myemofriend:
Interesting question. As long as the furnace has at least one wound, its monks and priest are Unbreakable. If the furnace is the only thing left, you will notice that it has no Ld score. The rulebook equates a '-' score with zero. As such, I would say two things could happen. 1) The furnace technically has 0 Ld, and if it loses combat it breaks on anything but snake-eyes. It then breaks a distance of 0 and is auto-caught. 2) The furnace has no Ld, and therefore is 'immune' to Ld tests. The rules entry on nonexistent stats is a little fuzzy and very brief, honestly both interpretations could work. I'd clarify with your opponent/tournament before the errata comes out. Realistically, I think it is meant to be played as the Furnace also being Unbreakable, but we will see in the errata. The Screaming Bell entry has exactly the same wording issue.
See above, but a nearby general would rectify this problem (or a living hero atop it of course).
You answered your own question. Only specific plague monk MODELS benefit from the banner, as such the furnace attacks do not. ----- As for Stregone's questions, I'll field the ones that weren't already answered.
Again, see above, and decide which interpretation to use with your buddies/store/tournament. Although remember that mounts benefit from the Ld of their rider if the rider is still alive.
The furnace has more than one wound, and therefore is kept as a separate model if the rider is killed. Not sure what you mean for the second part of the question, suffice to say the model sticks around even if the priest drops.
"In combat the Furnace BECOMES wreathed in a deadly fog." This implies that there is no choice in the matter for 'Enshrouded by Fog', in combat it simply happens and must happen. Roll for it whether you like it or not. "In your own player turn the chain holding the mighty swinging great censer CAN be let loose." This implies that there IS a choice in the matter, and you can choose not to use it. "This attack is done in addition to the Enshrouded by Fog attack." As you can see, both can be done. Essentially, Fog ALWAYS happens, Wreaker can ONLY happen during your turn, and DOES NOT have to happen. BOTH can be done (and will be every time you use Wreaker, as Fog always happens). Hope that helped. Hopefully the errata will clear up the Ld issue. |
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