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most attacks from a leader outright...; bonecrusher and warlord...
Topic Started: 9th November 2009 - 12:05 AM (807 Views)
reddogfish77
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thats up there with that rediculous cold one unit with hydra banner... only the ogres have a greater unit strength... :blink:
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Crone Hellebron from the dark elves can have 8 str 10! hits and 9 with the cauldron of blood while being mounted on a manticore who has 4 or 5(if failed ld and frenzied) str 5 killing blow hits for 14 attacks 9 at str 10 and 5 at str 5 with killing blow. Oh and don't forget the hatred. That's tough to beat.
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Warlord Snickers
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I had a tail weapon kill a giant last night, don't underestimate it. It was poison though...so I lawled. Then the giant fell on some slaves, which really made my warlords day.
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Silverback
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There is no doubt that there are bigger beat sticks in the game than the Warlord/RO combo, but MOST of them are either noticably more expensive, or special characters which everyone knows are all overpowered or worthless.

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reddogfish77
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was just thinking about the actually value to cost ratio of the warlord... he is absoulutely not worth it...

compared to an oldblood... oldblood has +1 strength, toughness, ld (though this is irrelevant), attacks, has better armour save, can have better mounts and has access to better weapons.

the reason the oldblood is sooo much better than the warlord for there respective cost is because with 5 S5 attacks the oldblood can take a magic weapon and even if its ability fails to work... say blade of realities and your opponent has awesome rolling for ld your lord will still generally wound a fair amount of the time because the attacks are still at high strength... where as the warlord has S4 meaning you either needed to boost him or arm him adequately in order to actually wound tough foes... there is a 55 point difference between the two... you would pay close to 50 points for the +1 T let alone the extra strength and attack...

sorry... after thinking about the warlord i thought about how much badder my brothers oldbloods are.
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Kariko83
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While yes a old blood with blade of realities is awesome he already costs 220pts just with that. Compare that to our warlord with Fellblade and great pox rat for the same price so we now have S10 ignore armor and do D6 wounds. To tip it we now move faster than him so we will most likely get the charge and with 4 attacks we have a very good chance of dropping him even before he strikes.

Doing a direct comparison between lords is kind of a fool hardy thing to do without doing it on a point by point comparison. Plus if you wanted to go after a character like an old blood I would go with an assassin with Warpforged blade if he is on foot or with Warpstars if he is on a carnisaur. It would be less points at risk and he has a good ward to hide behind.

Our Lords are in no way the be all end all of combat characters and should never be treated as such.
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Do you think, that every time a Plague Monk pees, he takes a S2 hit?
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reddogfish77
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i understand that... but when taking a fighting character you at least expect to get your monies worth. he cost !@ and for that you would expect to get something decent in return... it makes you wonder why you would take a warlord over a plague preist at all... in the previous edition the preist was not a mage. in this edition the preist can become a level 2 take 50 points of magic ride mounts and has +1 T still... just wondering at all the people saying how they will take a warlord... i understand he gives decent leadership but only 1 better than almost any other hero bar a WE.

basically what i am saying is that for how much he costs he does not deliver... i mean a scar vet is basically same cost and yet would smash a warlord in cc. if they were both naked...
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The Buoyancy of Water
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The plague priest can only take the Foul Pendant to get any sort of defensive save whereas the warlord has access to magic armours and such, plus an extra wound. The warlord is a better leader and with a greater magic item allowance can take better combinations of items.

And there's no use doing between army comparisons, because points etc are skewed within different lists depending on the overall army list composition. Ezpecially comparing Skaven characters to Saurus characters, who are meant to be hard as nails!!

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