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| deathmaster riddick | 1st August 2009 - 02:25 AM Post #1 |
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I Am The Monster
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title is pretty self-explanatory, however, i think will explain myself a little. i think that most of us are in agreement that a second army is a generally good thing to have(in case a friend wants to play, you want to mix it up, etc). i think another point i might add is that skaven are without a doubt the hordiest of the horde armies. so that being said, i think an army that is different from skaven in this aspect would be desirable(for mixing it up purposes). also, some core units with decent shooting range would be nice. that being said, i think orc and goblins are out, as are beastmen. other than that, i would say some kind of elves or lizardmen are your best bet. however, i'm just a slave, what do the people who know what they're talking about think? i think this gets brought up a lot in tiny segments(this army versus that army, what do you think about these guys, etc), i believe it's time we had a grand debate about who the favorite slaves of the master race should be. |
The best way to configure an army is to go play demons.-Nevamore Posted on Nov 6 2009, 04:02 PM
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| That Li'l Rat | 1st August 2009 - 02:30 AM Post #2 |
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Stormvermin
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Right now I don't know if I'll have an army apart from Skaven, but if i do I'd want one completely different to Skaven. Maybe Ogres of and elf, but right now I'm not really sure. |
I love my turn, it's all about me
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| Pestilent Lord | 1st August 2009 - 02:52 AM Post #3 |
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I'd have to say Dwarves. In several aspects they are the precise opposite of Skaven. They are brave to a fault, having Leadership 9 across the board and 10 on their Slayers and Dwarf Lord. They plainly refuse to move quickly, as opposed to the speedy Skaven. Their troops are all very solid, the lightweight close combatants having T4 and Heavy Armor/Shield, and of course their heavies have disturbing 2+ Armor. Their Warmachines are about on scale with Skryre tech for destructive potential, but can (for the most part) easily be made very safe/reliable to use. As for good ranged core troops, they have Quarrelers and Thunderers, both have a pretty long range and pack a good punch. Personally I find the Thunderers to be the second most disturbing non-artillery shooting in the game (the first is, and likely always will be, the Jezzail). Will I ever actually buy any? Unlikely, one of my friends owns a huge amount of them and another is buying some, if I want to mess around I borrow theirs. ![]() Warriors of Chaos might be my other thought... something about an almost pure melee army that is THAT hard to kill seems very enticing. |
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| ratboy1018 | 1st August 2009 - 02:56 AM Post #4 |
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Lab rat hard at work
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I have about 3000ish points of painted skaven. Recently I purchaced the HE book and the empire book. I chose the empire a a 2nd army for a couple of reasons. Knights, war machines, flagellants, detachments. They all seem cool although I've yet to battle with them. The HE have some cool rules, 2 core, 5 special at 2000 points!!! I chose empire. later, ratboy |
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| Pineapple Skitter | 1st August 2009 - 03:18 AM Post #5 |
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Totally rad
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I’d probably either do a chaos themed Brettonian army, or if there is a new chaos dwarf army and the models aren’t too pricey I might be tempted by them. I’ve got a long way to go with my skaven army first though… after hitting 2250pts I’d get the codex and at 3000pts I’d purchase and assemble a 500pts warband. I’ve been turned off daemons and lizardmen after getting a chance to use them firsthand. I local guy lent me his 2000pt lists (tzeentch flying ciruces with masque and keeper of secrets, and a Kroak list with 2 engines of the gods). I massacred my experienced chaos opponent with both lists by just moving forward and rolling die… nowhere near as fun as baiting with slaves and exploding ratling guns! -Skitter |
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| Craven | 1st August 2009 - 03:51 AM Post #6 |
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I've only got 1000points of skaven and i'm already considering getting another army. Most of my battles with my friends are at the 1000 point mark although they want 2k i'm reluctant to buy any more models until the new release. That said though, defiantly Tomb Kings, great fluff, some minor association with skaven (it was one of the tomb kings that wielded the felblade that the skaven made). And completely different from skaven, they're immune to psychology, spells are always cast, cause fear and utterly relentless with ranged attacks always hitting on 5+. Also i've heard that TK are an incredible tactical challenge and for me that's the fun in the game. |
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| blader4411 | 1st August 2009 - 08:16 AM Post #7 |
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The New Lunar Republic!
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I would go with HEs, as they are an elite army, completely the opposite of our skaven horde. -Killfang |
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| Lord Lughtigern | 1st August 2009 - 09:40 AM Post #8 |
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Statistically, there really doesn't seem to be much rhyme or reason to people getting their second army as a whole, although Dwarves, Vampire Counts, Orcs and Goblins & (to a lesser extent) Dark Elves seem to be favourites. Dwarves and DE, and somewhat VC all share in common that they can all be extremely powerful armies, with very strong troops, which can be very reliable - be it through being unbreakable, having almost flawless armour or just knowing that you can count on them to mince their opponent in CC. It makes sense that a Skaven general would tire of their plans falling apart due to dumb luck (because whenever a Skaven general looses, it has to be due to luck! ) and go to armies with that sense of reliability. I myself have always had a soft spot in my heart for the VC, with their extremely powerful Characters, delicious cavalry and unbreakably reliable troops. Summoning more troops during the game is always appealing to a horde general also!I suppose Orcs and Goblins apeals to those who just love the horde. Addicted to the zany mentality of endlessly painting hundreds of models and can't get enough of it with Skaven!
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| Random | 1st August 2009 - 10:28 AM Post #9 |
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Clanrat
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Vampire Counts, I love the ‘I am the whole army’ aspect of them. And the astonishing power of the vampire lord and the vampire knights (I always use them with hatred). It is in some way a horde army, since with skeletons and such you rely on combat resolution and a vampire to win, but more than being simply huge, they are simply always coming back. |
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| Ace0fskulls | 1st August 2009 - 10:41 AM Post #10 |
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Stormvermin
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i started with OK skaven IS my second army i am alose building a magic heavy army list from DE, i think this will be my main competative army |
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| mrtn | 1st August 2009 - 10:59 AM Post #11 |
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Swashbuckler
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Skaven is my third army. I started with a beastman army with hordes parts, and when they split the books I continued building on my WoC, which are now bigger than my beastmen. I started skaven to get some small weedy guys with shooting. ![]() WoC can be very different from skaven, with lots of heavily armoured cavalry that beat the snot out of you in close combat. |
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| Cannoness | 1st August 2009 - 04:20 PM Post #12 |
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The Elf Among Rats
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*Waves flag for High Elves* Because they are pretty and I KNOW you get sick of painting brown after a while. Plus they are pretty specialised, you don't need a lot of models for a lot of points, and the background is fantastic... and you can really make it different depending on what you want to field, or whatever. |
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| Rattigan Blackheart | 1st August 2009 - 05:00 PM Post #13 |
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Black Seer, Genius Leader Of Clan Bador
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Hmm hehe I too must say, skaven are my second army ![]() My Wood Elves take pride and place in 1st army terms ![]() But I also plan to get an Empire, a DE, A LM and a VC army as well, 2000pts each. |
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| Sciencespark | 1st August 2009 - 08:10 PM Post #14 |
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Grey Seer
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Empire because it has the options to be: Very cavalry heavy, skaven has no cavalry. Very missile troop heavy with handguns, crossbow and bow all of which are better missile weapons than our slings unless you sneek in close and then there's the longrifles. Very artillery heavy well cannons & mortar are special units, as well as rare artillery options and master engineer with longrifles and pigeons. & if you realy wanted to play them as powerful horde use a priest with his flagellents as core with another flagellant warband as rare. It's just very versatile and can be played loads of ways whilst most other armies tend to get stuck in a specific mode. |
Currently joint first in PRS points, may as well blow my trumpet whilst I've got one.
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| Jester | 1st August 2009 - 08:22 PM Post #15 |
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Chieftain
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I like High Elves. Why? After painting 250 models you're gonna want a slightly smaller force and high elves are smaller than most armies. My Skaven 2250 has 244 models while my high elf 2250 has 71. |
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) and go to armies with that sense of reliability. I myself have always had a soft spot in my heart for the VC, with their extremely powerful Characters, delicious cavalry and unbreakably reliable troops. Summoning more troops during the game is always appealing to a horde general also!





