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Screaming Bell; is it worth it???
Topic Started: 16th May 2008 - 04:32 AM (316 Views)
Sicarous
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title says it all is it worth putting your grey seer on a screaming bell in lets say a 2000pt game???
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Skaven Lord Vinshqueek
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For a 2000 pts game, it would suck up a quarter of your points. I, personally, find that to be a tad too much of an investment (in points), which will result in having too few points left for enough models.

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In 2000 pt games, it's worth it if being magically dominant is part of your game-plan. Otherwise, I'd wait till 3000 pts, where those universal effects start to become huge (all cavalry/units panic, etc..), especially since there'll be more units away from the general in those games testing on their own stats. Also, imagine frenzying your army in 3000 pts. :D
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Chieftain Cazgar
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i almost always take it at 2k and it's yet to fail me.

having 13 power dice (seer, bell, 2 engineers and the eye) is just a good omen really isn't it? :P it gives you maigcal domminance, and it isn't really that expensive.

sure, it's gonna be around 500points for him, plus the stormers, so that's like 750pts easy all in one place. but compared to how many other troops we can get anyway it doesn't matter so much. it isn't like an elf army where taking a dragon means that due to your troops being too costly you can't get a decent army. i've got 180 models in a 2k army with the bell and that's easily enough to outnumber most foes.
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Id say no for 2k. It is too many points, and I would much rather invest the points elsewhere. In fact, the only time I use my Bell is in battles of 4k or larger, so it almost never gets a run... Its not bad value or anything, I just like so many other stuff in the Skaven army, and it makes me cringe to think of spending so many points on a single model in a horde army...

As Cazgar said, a Seer on Bell plus 2 Engineers can run amok in 2k games, but to me that sounds like a tad too much magic... On occasions I use a Seer (NO Bell) and 2 Engineers and sometimes people complain about that, so I guess its really all down to the gaming group... Probably a Seer on Bell plus 1 Engineer would be sufficient.

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Rubberchrist
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Shennanigans are out of the question!
I personally LOVE the bell... it has always been good to me.

I tend to run magic heavy (at LEAST a Seer and WE in 2k), and always field it in one-offs when I feel like it would be worth it.

I've been shying away from it in recent games just because I'm re-tooling my list and need to figure a few things out.

Anyhow.. short and sweet... it is Expensive in 2k games, but not unreasonable.

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Squeek Squeek the battlehungry
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I like the screaming bell but just not at 2k games. Like others have said its just to expensive for me. As for 13 powerdice theres a saying for that. "if I can count the powerdice on both hands thats find, but if I need my foot I'll use it instead to kick you in the @$$". :P

I wish I remember where I heard that quote. I'm almost positive its from the under empire somewhere.
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Decker_cky
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You could quite reasonably run a seer with the bell and no engineers for a magic phase. Your defense will be a little weak, but you can take a protective item, the eye and a dispell scroll, giving yourself 9 power dice and 4 dispell dice, which should do quite well, along with the ringing of the bell effects.
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I almost always use the screaming bell with thanquol on it, even in 2000 pt games! It never fails me! Except when it gets sucked into a pit <_< damn lore of shadows...

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pilgrim2715
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The bell is certainly worth its points, the abilities are excellent, however fielding it in 2000 points leaves you with far too few core troops. Take it in battles of 3K or more.
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Sicarous
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wow guys i never thought i would get such a response thanks for all who have posted. As for the bell im just going to try it in a 2k point game and see how it works out then i will see if i like it thats the best option i can think of.
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Rubberchrist
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Shennanigans are out of the question!
you might have to try the bell a couple times....

Like most things skaven it is either ENORMOUSLY effective and makes people hate you forever, or blows up and singlehandedly loses you the game.... either way good times are had.

Oh, and ALWAYS roll 3 dice.

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Sicarous
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thanks R i will remeber that and your right i wasent going to base my decision on one game i planned on playing multiple games to see if like it but im real into magic and i like random explosions and death so ring on lol
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==Me==
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I used the Bell at 2k games for a while, mostly because I didn't have enough models and was turning about 1500 into 2k :rolleyes:

All in all, it works quite well. The Bell buffs the Seer and his unit significantly, and ringing the thing bis so much fun.

It is very expensive, so don't try splurging on expensive things in addition to it. A Bell backed up by a horde of vermin is quite solid, but throwing in too many weapon teams, jezzails, fancy stuff like Assassins and WLCs, you will not have enough models.

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The majority of the time I have a greyseer in my army, he's riding the bell.
I also use it once in a while when I'm running 3k pts vs 1k Chaos undivided/Slannesh/Nurgle w/ lords. (yes 1 vs 3).

The greatest thing about it is that the whole unit (30sv+Bell+Seer+any other characters I put into it) is so expensive that its hard for players in my group to ignore it.

Just having it on the table is enough to open up some flank charges.
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After failing LD numerous times from CR,
He concedes the game at the end of turn 2.)
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