| How do you stick to collecting them?; and not feel overwhelmed with the amount | |
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| Swissdictator | 16th April 2008 - 03:25 AM Post #1 |
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Steampunk Engineer
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I may be getting a job again soon, so I can afford to collect again. I love the Skaven themselves, I really think they are cool. When I was collecting army books when I first got into the hobby, I can remember coming home from Warhammer night (I have to drive an hour to Madison, WI to play) and stopping at the usual truck stop for dinner and opening it up and enjoying every second. Thank the Horned Rat for free refills of hot beverages. I absolutely love these guys and look forward to fielding them someday. The cost of doing so and the sheer amount of figures seems daunting, and that's before I consider I'm not entirely sure how to go about designing an army. It got to the point where I traded them off to get figures for other armies I was working on. I don't regret the trade as, quite frankly, I needed the figures. Plus if they redid the Clanrats, I would be happy. I have to admit that I am a fan of both Clan Pestilens and Clan Skryre. For Pestilens, the Plague monks seem really cool, although I am not the biggest fan of Frenzy. Clan Skryre is also very cool. I like all the crazy gadgetry that they can bring to the roster. However I also like the verminous horde itself. I'm just to intimitated with the sheer amount of figures I'd have to buy, particularly since I'd want to take a fair number of slave units... throw them into combat... then blast the combat with shooting. So how do you go about getting that Skaven army together without getting frustrated? I'll have to stick to one of my other who knows how many armies for now. Maybe I should make Skaven my 13th army. If you count armies I've done over (two), I'm up to 11 so far. |
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| Squeek Squeek the battlehungry | 16th April 2008 - 03:44 AM Post #2 |
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Of all the armies I've collected the skaven have been the most rewarding. The models themselves are quite good, and even though the sheer numbers seems daunting the models look spectacular when amassed in horde. Liking pestilence and skyre is a blessing for you for a couple of reasons. The battalion box for skaven is about as good a value as you can get. if you invested in 3 boxes youd have 120 clanrats/slaves (depending on how you model them) enough plauge monks sprues to convert some into plague censor bearers. Then the rat ogres make a great filler as you slowly build up on skyre units. |
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| Morgoth | 16th April 2008 - 04:13 AM Post #3 |
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Welcome to the tunnels. Since you have 11 ( ) other armies, you have widely acces to slaves.
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Greetings from Morgoth Mostly Clan Eshin, occasionally Clan Husk.Proud keeper of the Poking Stick of Doom, known to many a RPG-player ![]()
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| scrivener | 16th April 2008 - 04:24 AM Post #4 |
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To deal with the tedium of making all those clanrat and slave units, I usually entertain myself by finding new and creative ways of modelling the units, to keep my interest engaged. It might take longer than just gluing them together and slapping some paint on, but it'll be more rewarding. And like morgoth said, proxying troops from your other armies as slaves will save you the effort of making new ones. Slaves can be of any other race's troops of the same base size, just as long as, for appearances sake, they look raggedly and slave-like.
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| Warlord Bloodfang | 16th April 2008 - 04:38 AM Post #5 |
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To help with the daunting task of forking over the amounts of money required to build an army, I usually spread my model buyings over a month or two. It's taken from... about November in 2006 till now for me to amass a 2000 ish point Skaven army and I still don't think it's completely finished. Say, one month I might buy a box of clanrats, that'll last me about 2-3 months and during that time I'll buy the odd metal figure. I've only bought one Battalion box for my Skaven and with that I saved the cost of a Clanrat box. Buy the models in small amounts, maybe play small games with the ones you've got with others or even on your desk just to get used to the Skaven special rules and you'll get there... eventually.
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| Bodacious | 16th April 2008 - 06:33 AM Post #6 |
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You don't .At one point or another I think everyone gets a little frustrated/bored with their skaven, but what matters is whether you love the army enough to get back into it afterwards. I'd reccommend you to start out with a battallion, an extra box of clanrats and your choice of characters and skryre troops (which are usually more expensive due to being metal). For a 'modest' ammount you'd be able to get a solid core to build a 1000 point army* out of and build towards a bigger force after you had some experience. If by then you've gotten bored of painting/assembling clanrats, just spend some time on another army or give painting a break and focus on gaming. In a few days/weeks/months you'll get excited about your skaven again and can start expanding your army 1 box at a time. *(battalion, clanrats, warlock engineer, plague priest, ratling gun and warp lightning cannon) 1 plague priest w/ second hw and bands of power 1 warlock engineer w/ full equipment (except pistol) and storm deamon 2 units of 25 clanrats w/ full command (one w/ ratling gun) 1 unit of 25 plague monks w/ second hw and full command (use some clanrats in between) 1 unit of 2 rat ogres 1 warp lightning cannon =994 pts |
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| bakfire the experimenter | 16th April 2008 - 09:24 AM Post #7 |
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graduate of the school for dangerous inventions
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personally i went down a different route to everyone else here from the sounds of things - i bought my complete 3000pt army out right from the start, built them all and thanks to the people i game with was allowed to use them in that state ("as long as they see progress on the painting") i then sprayed them all - a lot of spray used!! then if i felt in the mood to paint i painted 5 models to a basic level, if i was still in the mood i did another 5. the trick i found was that if i wasnt in the mood to paint not to feel forced to paint beacuse they need doing otherwise i would have gone mad... oh wait maybe a bit late for that... the biggest help to the problem was deffinately being able to use them with out them being painted, it took all the pressure off and with out the pressure made paintung them so much more bearable... |
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| plague priest13 | 16th April 2008 - 01:05 PM Post #8 |
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I built up in 500pt sections, Tho I ended up going though year 11/12 and stoped collection im thinking I will start again, the secound I can get my hands on my old models <_< But yeah I found doing 500pt segments workes pretty well, I think i started with the battalian box, and had a few clanrats and a bunch of mettle figures laying around form when dad attempted to collect... the first 500pts got painted pretty quick, then I did some conversions, and as I started painting the secound 500, I just lost intrest in the hobby no one to play, and money issues I fond are the most demoralising thing...so yeah to recap, doing 500pt sections, and make sure you still get to have games regularly, I always included a character in those 500 pts, even if it was a completely standard cheiftain to lead the army... or warlock engineer, spending some time on the characters, I found, gave me a brake from the endless repetitive ness of the standard troops... I think I got though 50 or 60 normal rats, and I would do a warmachine, or just something diffrent! hope this helps |
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| Azhtabak | 16th April 2008 - 02:40 PM Post #9 |
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At least with me, Skaven aren't the only army I collect - I also have beastmen, lizardmen, some 40k stuff, and enough various orcs and gobbos to make a 1000-1500 point army. I stick with Skaven through one simple way though - I love collecting them. I genuinly enjoy painting, building and gaming with every single Skaven I have. Yes, it gets a little tiring after the first billion clanrats, but I still love playing with them ![]() *Unofficial figures. The actual number is significantly higher |
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| Rat Pack | 16th April 2008 - 04:09 PM Post #10 |
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Before I even knew what Warhammer was, I loved the classic PWGs! I desperately tried to find an equivalent in D&D, but no luck. Years later when I started playing warhammer, I inherited a buddy's lizardman army. From there, I started Dogs of War for the versatility, selling my lizardmen for some descent $$ (I'm a pretty fine painter and conversion nut). Then it was off to make a Samurai Ogre Army (really sweet ). Now that I'm financially secure, I've decided to invest in Skaven. But no, I can't just leave them alone. Every non-slave unit is converted; including weapon teams, characters, stormvermin, jezzails, and clannies. I break the monotony by making a centerpiece unit for each unit I do. For my Empire converted Clanrats, I have an upturned Hellblaster with a Skaven sniper perched on top. My Dwarf converted clanrats have two centerpieces; the first is a clanrat holding the Black Orc standard with the dead dwarf. I riddled him with arrows and put a skaven symbol around his neck, with a crossbow tote-ing clanrat laughing up at him. The second centerpiece is an old Thorgrim Palanquin being carried by slaves, with an overexcited clanrat on the thrown with a book and axe. My dark elf converted Clannies have a rat ogre converted to look like a Manticore. Basically, do something for each unit to make them special and reward yourself and your creativity! A cool, simple, filler unit on a 40mm base makes your army unique and keeps you motivated! At least that's what I keep telling myself...
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| Rusty Tincanne | 16th April 2008 - 07:52 PM Post #11 |
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Knowing I was going to be going back to uni it was easy for me to decide to focus. I picked an army - the Bubonic Court list from Lustria - based on the models and fluff I liked most. Then I made a bunch of lists. Staring w/a 2k list (my eventual goal), I used units from that list to create viable 300, 500, and 750 pt lists. I started working on the models from those lists first. When I was mostly done, I created my 1k and 1.5k lists and have since started on those. Over all it has worked well. despite having made a few changes over time, my staples are pretty much the same, and all those giant rats I did first are now used as proxies. Basically, it boils down to will power. I refused to work on any heroes until they could be used in my lists. If I wanted to paint something secial, I just worked a bit harder on a normal PM (converting mostly) and made it a standard bearer or deacon. The one thing that sucks for me is that, because I have only the one army, I severely lack bits to play with. I do have a truckload of gongs, though!
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| Sciencespark | 16th April 2008 - 09:06 PM Post #12 |
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I brought most of my Skaven years ago before geting married and taking a long break in the hobby. They sat on my wardrobe at my parents for all this time awaiting my interest to be rekindelled. When it was I already had a large army to start working on, but how to start? I went to the 'Tail of four gammers' thread in 'army diaries' and decided to give it a go 150pts per month is just about do-able with characters building up a nice buffer. If your going horde then there are a lot of figures but also going skryre / pestilens so don't forget the high cost units that will make life a little less tedious, maybe you could try and turn out a ratling gun, full command and 7 standard clan rats month one, kitted out Warlock & 13 clanrats the next, 5 Jezzail and 10 clanrats the next etc. 12/ 14/ and then 20 figs per month so a gradual build up which will give you time to find any short cuts to painting how you want etc. |
Currently joint first in PRS points, may as well blow my trumpet whilst I've got one.
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| scrivener | 17th April 2008 - 01:38 AM Post #13 |
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I also have only the one army, but I really want bitz to play with, so I buy boxes from other armies. It comes out as a bit of a waste, but with the smaller cheaper boxes, it doesn't hurt the pocket so much. I last got a flagellant box which provided lots of good bitz for PCBs and other stuff, and worked out possibly cheaper than the metals, and the remaining bodies could be used for slaves. |
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| Skaven Lord Vinshqueek | 17th April 2008 - 07:13 AM Post #14 |
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I guess it might depend on what system(s) those armies are for, right? ![]() In the end, I might not be the best person to give advice on how one sticks to (keep?) collecting Skaven, as my rag-tag mass of 6k-ish Skaven has been largely left untouched over the past three/ four years. That has more to do with the fact that I've become more of a Specialist Games fan, then one of the core games of Games Workshop, but I do have to say the large amount of white-undercoated models in my army do attest to the fact that the hours of painting required when doing a Skaven army have left their mark on me. As some would say, to me, it has been very de-motivating to continue painting the army after buying the Skaven armybox. However, I have learned one thing: Add some variation to the models you're going to paint, in order to don't have your mind melt. (Or before you see vermin brown everywhere you look... ).Greetz |
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| Rats&Goblins | 17th April 2008 - 10:17 AM Post #15 |
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Basically, my models lay around unpainted for weeks, months, years, etc. I've worked out how to get past that though - I set myself deadlines (like UKGT last year, and WH Doubles this year) to get chunks of my collection painted in one go - since you have to have painted minis at the events. My biggest mistake, unfortunately, has been painting up two armies with a very similar colour scheme back to back. Those being my Woodelves last year and my Skaven this year (going to try and get my Skaven to GT, too - but that might be a little too much for me to manage). I'm heartily sick of green and brown paint, most of my paint pots are green or brown now, but I will persevere, because most of them have been laying around in various states of assembly / paint since 2004 and it's getting annoying! Only 1.5-2k points to go! My next trick will be Tyranids, I have 1500pts of those lined up ready to paint, and there definitely will not be any trace of green or brown among them. |
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) other armies, you have widely acces to slaves.
Mostly Clan Eshin, occasionally Clan Husk.



no one to play, and money issues I fond are the most demoralising thing...
). Now that I'm financially secure, I've decided to invest in Skaven.




