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| BlightedMarsh | 2nd March 2008 - 12:46 PM Post #1 |
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a true horde can deploy from edge to edge. a smart opponent will use a refused flank so we can only bring a small part of our wonderfull numbers to bear at any ont time, so i ask why should we deploy so wide at all any way? i would have 6 distict divisions in a force, each with a differant role. Velite. nightrunner skermishers, giant rat packs. small and cheap Hastarti. naked slaves, nuff said pricipea. clan rat main battle line as per normal triiari. many small spear clan rats (Msscr), small monk units and small rat orger packs. gladius. clan pestilance special sheild. rat swarms, storm vermine, frensyed slave/clan rats with spears. first of all the velite are deployed as drops on your refused flanks to cause the oppersition to misdeploy to wide. their job is to hasssas, disrupt the opposing line to prevent them from redeploying thier force to meat your main thrust, to eliminate the opposing artlliery and in the end game to act as rearcharger and rank brakers. the first and second lines of your main force (slaves and CR) do their busines as per normal on one flank, i dont think i knead to reiterate this here. the gladius is your hammer unit. it is deployed nestled within the heart of your formation and acts to create a brake through then on to rampage through the enermys line like emperer K at a goblin picnic. the triiari act as the resuves in support of your main lines, defendin their rears, pluging gaps and exploting the brakethoughs. the shild act to secure your flanks and as an anvil on witch the opperstion will brake when supported by rearcharges by the velite (NR). all this is just therehammor i supose but it is based on the roman republican legion Formations and the campains of alexander, they concerd the known world so it must be good for something. |
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| Static | 2nd March 2008 - 02:07 PM Post #2 |
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There are a few problems here with your use of the roman armies strategies, first of all if you are talking about the legionnaires then they are a slow moving, elite force...not a horde. If you are discussing the auxiliaries force which was (especially in later centuries) the main campaigning force, then you are talking about the use of cavalry (which skaven dont have) and non-citizen troops (which while lesser equipped, were often just as skilled at fighting. Anyway back to the idea, several of your idea such as small spear rat units cannot be upheld easily within the army book. However the idea of placing hard hitting units on the end of the CR units is a well known tactic which does stand up on the warhammer field. |
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| BlightedMarsh | 2nd March 2008 - 03:13 PM Post #3 |
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Good points, thank you stoic. Just to clarify i was refuring to the early republican gaurd legions and not the post Marian reform troops. when compearing skaven to a real life force only roman legions and the red army spring to mind. We have infantry and warmachines, so did rome. they had no cavaly and nither do we, they had aside from war macines few if any dedicated misile troops and nither do we. they where not gods, they relide on their resurves of men and superior tactics and manuverablity (as copeared to the ridged phalanx) to carry the day. we have those number to form resurve lines, with stregnth in numbers we have the diciplin and leadership of those of old and more than enugh boldies to make up fore the lack of armour (wich wile it isnt dwarven 4+ in cc is not to be snift at). we are also similar in that we strugle against high manuver armies (crassus anyone), we perform better on the offence than the defence (give me back my legions) and when things come unstuck for us they tend to fall absolutly appart. wilst dwarves(or is it dwarfs?) might more closy match the charicter of the indervidual legioner they are too expencive to form the manupular confuguration and not manuverable to be truly tacticaly flexible witch was the real power of the legion (although having said that my mate pauls throng can blitz across the table 18" in the first turn and thats not counting the gyrocopter). rant over. i admit that i was wrong about the minimum size of CR units though. still all comparisons to pax romana aside could it work and how could it be improved? |
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