| What kind of ogres do you prefer?. | |
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| Tweet Topic Started: 23rd December 2007 - 05:14 PM (381 Views) | |
| Aderashi | 23rd December 2007 - 05:14 PM Post #1 |
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Chieftain
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Hi all. I want some better ogres in my army (not the overpriced ratogres). Also I rarely use my rare slots so I alway's have a spare rare slot. So it comes to this question. What do you prefer 3 Ironguts or 4 bulls?.. |
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| Niz'tizi'ihack | 23rd December 2007 - 05:35 PM Post #2 |
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Mad Harbringer of Mutation
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Iron guts every time... 9 Strength 6 attacks, that's the baby. |
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| ratmikey | 24th December 2007 - 01:38 AM Post #3 |
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I have become my terror,and you my precious lamb and martyr
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Definatly the ironguts.Ask most ogre kingdom players which they prefer and take more in thier army and most will say ironguts. |
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Cazgar on the subject of Bolters as ejector seats: Casper says: "we're all gonna die - HURK!" "looks like private krellars blasting off, agaaaaiiiin....." | |
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| Demagorgon | 24th December 2007 - 01:54 AM Post #4 |
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Demaaaaargh
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I tested this out on an O.K player and he has decided to be akward and pick the 4 bulls When poked, he says Iron Guts are technically better but 3 of them don't have the weight of attacks to overcome combat resolution. So there's one for you who'd pick the bulls, but adds that if he could he'd take 4 Iron Guts instead of 3. So make of that what you will! |
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| ratmikey | 24th December 2007 - 01:59 AM Post #5 |
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I have become my terror,and you my precious lamb and martyr
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Damn i didn't expect that!
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Cazgar on the subject of Bolters as ejector seats: Casper says: "we're all gonna die - HURK!" "looks like private krellars blasting off, agaaaaiiiin....." | |
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| Rat Pack | 28th December 2007 - 04:37 PM Post #6 |
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As an ogre player, I say...Ironguts! Skaven are just lacking in the high strength hth category (no slight on our PCB's out there!). Three ironguts in the flank of a unit (which is where you want them) negates rank bonus and lends a serious "crunch factor" to those heavily armored units. Consider making your ironguts with regular rat ogre heads and tails, and making some simple fur from green stuff! Cheers! |
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| Niz'tizi'ihack | 28th December 2007 - 07:04 PM Post #7 |
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Mad Harbringer of Mutation
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I've just come back from another massacre for my Hellpit.. and I can tell you this.. Augmented rat ogres... which are S6 4+save.... are the bomb. just throw them in alongside a ranked up unit for +5 static combat rez (unit) backed up by about 4 kills (ROs), nothing on this earth is going to stand up to that*. These are almost identical to ironguts, except that Ironguts get 3 St4 hits before the combat even starts. *OK an exaggeration, but Chaos Warriors didn't |
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| Blood Vixen | 31st December 2007 - 01:51 AM Post #8 |
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All hail the Age of Skaven
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bulls will give you a more suvivable unit while ironguts will give you a more choppy unit its effectively saying plague monks or storm vermin with shields but with ogres |
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| lexy | 2nd January 2008 - 03:04 PM Post #9 |
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Ironguts all the way: They have a better chance of not running away(higher Ld) Let's see them fight orcs: 4 bulls with extra handweapon will have 16 attacks, hit 8 and wound 4 3 ironguts will have 9 attacks, hit 4,5 and wound 4 When the armour saves get better, the ironguts get better. Both bulls and ironguts will not win combat against a full block of infantry head on. Ironguts have better AS against shooting. They both start panicking at one model down. Ironguts all the way ( did I said that already?) |
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| Vermitt Stain | 9th January 2008 - 04:47 PM Post #10 |
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i would go for iron guts they are generaly better and even though you only had three of them it means that they can always rally. |
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| Aderashi | 9th January 2008 - 09:35 PM Post #11 |
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Chieftain
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ya I know (that Ironguts are better). I have already converted 3 bulls to 3 irongut (rat ogres with great weapons), ill try to post some pics later. I used them too last week and they did great. They held the centre of the battlefield for 2 turns xD. It was against a VC player and I charged his skellies in the flank. A lot died (due to crumble) but still after the charge about half of the unit was left. Of course the guy started resurrecting 2D6 on skeletons on the unit (like 2 times).. And his grave guard charged in the flank of the irongut. These guys only gave 1 wound to 1 of my ironguts and I just ignored the Grave guard and chopped up more skellies (you got to love hitting on a 3+ against ws 2 models). It was pretty hilarious because of the irongut holding these units up there were 2 nice flanks open the next turn :lol: . I DEFFENETlY prefer these guys over ratogres. To be honest it feels like there is no reason to field rat ogres I mean these guys are inferior to ironguts on almost all fields (except that they use a special slot and or you don’t have rare slots). |
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When poked, he says Iron Guts are technically better but 3 of them don't have the weight of attacks to overcome combat resolution. 


