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What kind of ogres do you prefer?.
Topic Started: 23rd December 2007 - 05:14 PM (381 Views)
Aderashi
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Chieftain
Hi all.

I want some better ogres in my army (not the overpriced ratogres).
Also I rarely use my rare slots so I alway's have a spare rare slot.

So it comes to this question.
What do you prefer

3 Ironguts or 4 bulls?..
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Niz'tizi'ihack
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Iron guts every time... 9 Strength 6 attacks, that's the baby.
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ratmikey
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Definatly the ironguts.Ask most ogre kingdom players which they prefer and take more in thier army and most will say ironguts.
Cazgar on the subject of Bolters as ejector seats:

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Demaaaaargh

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Ask most ogre kingdom players which they prefer and take more in thier army and most will say ironguts.


I tested this out on an O.K player and he has decided to be akward and pick the 4 bulls :P When poked, he says Iron Guts are technically better but 3 of them don't have the weight of attacks to overcome combat resolution.

So there's one for you who'd pick the bulls, but adds that if he could he'd take 4 Iron Guts instead of 3. So make of that what you will!
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ratmikey
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I tested this out on an O.K player and he has decided to be akward and pick the 4 bulls  When poked, he says Iron Guts are technically better but 3 of them don't have the weight of attacks to overcome combat resolution.

Damn i didn't expect that! :blink:
Cazgar on the subject of Bolters as ejector seats:

Casper says:
"we're all gonna die - HURK!" "looks like private krellars blasting off, agaaaaiiiin....."
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As an ogre player, I say...Ironguts! Skaven are just lacking in the high strength hth category (no slight on our PCB's out there!). Three ironguts in the flank of a unit (which is where you want them) negates rank bonus and lends a serious "crunch factor" to those heavily armored units. Consider making your ironguts with regular rat ogre heads and tails, and making some simple fur from green stuff!

Cheers!
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Niz'tizi'ihack
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I've just come back from another massacre for my Hellpit.. and I can tell you this.. Augmented rat ogres... which are S6 4+save.... are the bomb. just throw them in alongside a ranked up unit for +5 static combat rez (unit) backed up by about 4 kills (ROs), nothing on this earth is going to stand up to that*. These are almost identical to ironguts, except that Ironguts get 3 St4 hits before the combat even starts.



*OK an exaggeration, but Chaos Warriors didn't
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Blood Vixen
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All hail the Age of Skaven
bulls will give you a more suvivable unit while ironguts will give you a more choppy unit

its effectively saying plague monks or storm vermin with shields but with ogres
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Ironguts all the way:
They have a better chance of not running away(higher Ld)

Let's see them fight orcs:
4 bulls with extra handweapon will have 16 attacks, hit 8 and wound 4
3 ironguts will have 9 attacks, hit 4,5 and wound 4
When the armour saves get better, the ironguts get better.

Both bulls and ironguts will not win combat against a full block of infantry head on.

Ironguts have better AS against shooting.

They both start panicking at one model down.

Ironguts all the way ( did I said that already?)
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i would go for iron guts they are generaly better and even though you only had three of them it means that they can always rally.
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Aderashi
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ya I know (that Ironguts are better).

I have already converted 3 bulls to 3 irongut (rat ogres with great weapons), ill try to post some pics later.

I used them too last week and they did great.
They held the centre of the battlefield for 2 turns xD.
It was against a VC player and I charged his skellies in the flank.
A lot died (due to crumble) but still after the charge about half of the unit was left.
Of course the guy started resurrecting 2D6 on skeletons on the unit (like 2 times)..
And his grave guard charged in the flank of the irongut. These guys only gave 1 wound to 1 of my ironguts and I just ignored the Grave guard and chopped up more skellies (you got to love hitting on a 3+ against ws 2 models).
It was pretty hilarious because of the irongut holding these units up there were 2 nice flanks open the next turn :lol: .

I DEFFENETlY prefer these guys over ratogres. To be honest it feels like there is no reason to field rat ogres I mean these guys are inferior to ironguts on almost all fields (except that they use a special slot and or you don’t have rare slots).
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