| Raising Leadership beyond 7.; Why not? | |
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| Everything Is Expendable | 21st December 2007 - 02:05 PM Post #1 |
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Is it possible to pump one's leadership of the general beyond the measly 7 offered by the warlord? I know the sensei ability is possible for Ld 9 if a master assassin is your general, I think. Or even higher, if you use the Deathmaster. Would like some clarifications. For a conventional army, could one possibly take a dark emissary located here http://us.games-workshop.com/games/warhamm...sets/albion.pdf as a dogs of war unit, taking up both a hero and a rare choice, and then using it as your army general since it's a wizard it's obviously a character? Then you'd have a leadership of 8, and a lord slot still open. |
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| Sebrent | 21st December 2007 - 02:18 PM Post #2 |
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You'll notice from that link that the Dark Emissary is hired as a Dogs of War unit ... usually when something is "hired" to fight for an army, it is not the general of the army. However, there are no rules I know of off the top of my head that directly state this ... it just seems wrong, oh so wrong. |
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| Everything Is Expendable | 21st December 2007 - 02:28 PM Post #3 |
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After a few thousand years, the Skaven finally find a lord with a leadership higher than 7? Yeah, it does seem wrong, after all they did remove the leadership 10 crown of command from the skaven grasp. So basically this can't be done, oh well, I guess I shouldn't have been looking for the easy way out anyway. Shame on me. Well, the Dogs of War list states: All named models count as characters...Note that, regardless of their leadership value, these characters can never be an army's General. |
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| Lord Lughtigern | 21st December 2007 - 02:39 PM Post #4 |
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For Regiments of Reknown, it says that
What is the difference between a RoR and a DoW unit?
From this very unclear approach, and the fact that the general consencious on the internet is that you cannot hire Heroes or Lords from Dogs of War armies in your list, I'm going to have to say that I interpret it as Dogs of War characters cannot lead your armies. It's vague though... Other more solidly legit ways? Not that I can think of past named Characters (Klawmuskast) or Verminlords MUTATE:
Hey, where did you find that? I'm looking for the bit that says you can't take characters from Dogs of War (instead of Regiments of Reknown) to lead your armies. As Truthsayers and Dark Emmisaries aren't actually named [e.g The "Truthsayer Alan Titchmarsh" would be a (non existant) example of a named one.] so they still count as Dogs of War units that count as Hero and Rare choices. |
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| Tysp | 21st December 2007 - 02:47 PM Post #5 |
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Well, theres always that vermin lord. :rolleyes: I have to agree with Sebrent, not just about dogs o war leading a Skaven army, but just that Skaven are cowards by nature. They are suppose to be the worst in Warhammer leadership wise, or at least thats how I've always viewed them. You just have to find a way to make it work for you (Ie: let a unit of slaves break so your two clanrat regiments behind can charge/flank an enemy at once. Thats always fun. )
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| Demagorgon | 21st December 2007 - 04:04 PM Post #6 |
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Skaven with naturally high leadership would completely negate the point of Strength in Numbers, which is part of what makes Skaven so characterful and balances them. Even a Skaven leader wouldn't be brave by himself. Isn't Ld 10, even temporarily, high enough? A horde army with individually high leadership would be horrible to face and it just doesn't work with their nature and background. You just have to work around it. When your army wets itself and runs away, all your teeth will probably be showing. Might as well pretend it's a smile since it's an inevitable eventuality. |
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| Skaven Lord Vinshqueek | 22nd December 2007 - 08:58 PM Post #7 |
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Bunny ear says flop
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@Lord Lughtigern: I think that Everything Is Expendable was referring to the Regiments of Renown list. On the matter of fielding the Dark Emissary as army general: The Dark Shadows campaign booklet states that nor the Dark Emissaries, nor the Truthsayers can be the army general. Greetz Mutate: *laughs*... Sneaky buggers. Games Workshop is apparently not consistent at all with their online rules packs, as while the US pdf on the Dark Emissary doesn't state they can't be the army general, while this one (go to page 2) states they can't. I guess this definitely needs an errata then... Greetz (again) |
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| Vermitt Stain | 8th January 2008 - 06:04 PM Post #8 |
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i agree with daemagogorn on this , if skaven had a higher leadership it would make the strength in numbers thing uneeded and that is part of the skaven character that i dont want to see changed. |
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| Sweet Zombie Jesus | 8th January 2008 - 07:15 PM Post #9 |
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Zombie by choice
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A skaven army with Ld above 7 is crazy! It may be waaaaaaaay better to play with, bit its just not the skaven way.
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| General Vorg | 8th January 2008 - 11:16 PM Post #10 |
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A brave skaven is an improbable as a tall dwarf, an intimidating elf, or a Spam free UE *disapears* I hope this isnt spam, just trying to solidy the point squeeks |
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| scrivener | 9th January 2008 - 01:16 AM Post #11 |
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*toot*
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That's actually been fixed. Except for the occasional vorg post, I guess :D, but some things in life are truly inevitable.
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They are suppose to be the worst in Warhammer leadership wise, or at least thats how I've always viewed them.
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