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Message from Wolt; Who can't post right now
Topic Started: 15th June 2007 - 10:18 AM (2,579 Views)
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I can't find much to add, so I'll just second Acrux and Thrask :P

The rules is the same for everyone, it's not hard to follow them, in my opinion.


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Reh. He swore, got warned. Swore again, off he goes, digging his hole a little deeper as he went. Acrux has the situation the bag. (Baraduribagugar has it in a quote ;) Essential difference, there.)

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the only reason im quoting this is because WHEN THE *#$@$@$& DID SEBRENT JOIN THE CO13? what happened? really? where have i been? Ive been active for the past 2 months and i SWEAR he was a member like 2 days ago.... weird...

Actually, He was member a whole 4 days ago, now. :P [/color]
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Jun 15 2007, 02:51 PM
the only reason im quoting this is because WHEN THE *#$@$@$& DID SEBRENT JOIN THE CO13? what happened? really? where have i been? Ive been active for the past 2 months and i SWEAR he was a member like 2 days ago.... weird...

nuff said

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Look, there's a reason why CO13 can give warnings and bans. And there's a reason why THEY can do it. Say what you want, but if they did it than it's quite probably for the best.

If it's arguable that a warning/banning was deserved, that can happen. And maybe, just maybe sometimes mods can go a little quickly on this and "make a mistake". It can happen. But if it's borderline, it shouldn't happen in the first place. So even if the warning/ban isn't deserved, it means you should change your ways. It wouldn't be really bad to have only 1 "mistake" warning/ban. But there's a problem if it repeats itself for the exact same reason. If you act "slightly bad" many times, you're no better than doing realy bad stuff 2-3 times.
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:lol: Go Vorgie.

Here is my view on the matter. It pretty much does not very from others but I don't feel like quoting the same post that's been quoted a good 4 times :P

Sure, Wolt has contributed positively in the forums, as did Bas. But there are always those times that people do things that, frankly, just piss most people off that read it. This naturally causes the COXIII to pay closer attention and to be stricter with them.

At getting other people to post while you're not there... I, like Vinz, think it is just a pathetic cry for attention. I can understand it if you got perma-banned, since someone else would have to see it beforehand and you would never be able to post, but when it is just a temp ban.... can it not wait three days or whatever the amount of time is?

(Also, it confuses the hell out of you when you get linked to it.... I was linked to this post and thought Dema was leaving, and was confused that she was temp-banned :lol:)
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Just to inject myself in this topic I have a few things to say as well:

1: I'm glad this discussion is going as well as it is and that allthough sometimes pretty inflamatory things get flown around with issues like this and stuff often gets personal I feel that so far pretty much everyone has been mature and sensible about it. Thanks everyone for that ^_^ !

2: My personal opinion is that it's a darn shame that some people have so much trouble with rules that are actually quite simple and natural to follow. Profanity is something that I have always found easy to avoid and it saddens me to see people still struggling with it.

3: I'm also very sad that wolt and bassik have been trying to place the blame on the council for their punishments. In my experience (even before I was on the council myself) the council has ever been generous with their second chances and I think that if we would have had a couple of robots enforcing the rules to the letter, there would have been a lot more members banned or warned right now. Several council members have been very lenient in lots of cases and I'm baffled that both wolt and bas are having such a hard time understanding the message we're trying to send them.

4: I am really dissapointed that Scar and Sebrent went post-hacking without me <_< .

5: @ Vorg: :lol: Did you completely this stuff or what :P ?

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May I just say that this whole thread has demonstrated the intolerable meglomania of the CO13 and their associates, wantonly mod-abusing by editing perfectly reasonable posts with their own comments. I find this disgraceful, and as such I shall propose that we storm their mod-forum with pitchforks and torches. However, I shall not be able to partake in such a joyous affair, as I will have flounced out melodramatically long before then.

Good day to you sirs, and may the excrement of existance bounce gleefully from the stick of time and land with a convincing splat upon your overly large heads.

:ph43r: This post will be censored as soon as it is released. I can't stay here or they'll find me. My brothers, RISE UP! THROW OFF YOUR CHAINS! Stand up for yourselves! Don't allow these... erm.. democratically elected... erm... representitives of the.. er.. public will... erm. Yes. Don't let these facist volunteers... erm.... yeah, KILL THEM! :ph43r:

Aww, you just did that to give me an excuse to hack a post too ;) . That's just sweet ^_^ . ~Bodacious
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Has anyone actually realized Wolt isn't perm-banned yet?
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Jun 15 2007, 11:09 PM
Has anyone actually realized Wolt isn't perm-banned yet?

Yep, that's why he's viewing the forums *waves at Wolt*

He's temp banned for being a bad boy, in essence. There's a pretty clear T&C on the site (somewhere, a mod has posted it so I can't be ars... bothered to look it up) which state: No swearing. I sometimes swear on other sites where it is appropriate and allowable, but I along with every other member respects the rules here. If he's been warned three times and deserved another warning, then he MUST be temp-banned, or the system looses its credibility (much the same as regarding Bassik).

Besides, there's far better and more graphic ways of expressing yourself than swearing. "I hope that a passing bird with chronic diarrhea decides to alleviate the pressure on it's overladen bowels upon your malformed person you putrid mass of pus" carries far more weight than, say "I hope you get crapped on" (or words to that effect. I've decided not to push my luck with these facist opperessors we have as moderators, who evidently fix CO13 votes so that they can get their chosen ones on the council too).
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I personally, have the worse mouth for swearing, and if you ever talked to me in the Real World, you'd come to realize that I make the ears of nuns bleed with what spews out of my mouth.

What's the point of saying this? As a member of a number of boards, I have learned to cut back upon my profane text, immensely. Upon being threatened with a ban, I found the transition more then easy. It's really not hard, and when you're on a board with minors, yes MINORS, such nasty word to throw around but it's gotta get put out here, you do NOT swear.

It's a common curtesy.

Why don't you swear:

1) It actually makes you sound smarter. Crazy I know, but refraining from swearing makes you seem like a cool, collected individual who's in complete control of any given situation on a board.

2) It allows for your points to be brought forth more clearly and concisely without lengthening it un-neededly with words that really have no use in whatever you're talking about. Seriously. I don't know about you guys, but reading the f word every other word doesn't really encourage me to go further.

3) It's considered polite and curteous to your fellow board members. This is the big one. This is a Community. You respect everybody. So this may come to you as a shock, but swearing offends people. When something is found to be offensive, you do not do it. It's really that simple.
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I typically swear a lot. The rules here, however, prohibit it. I therefore don't do it. It's very simple, and not even a matter of "morals" or "taste" or whatever. It's just that it's not my house and I see only negative utility in any sort of "Fight the Power" absurdity when it comes to stuff like this.
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Just to mention, this isn't a no-tolerance crackdown campaign against swearing. Some swearing, as wolt did say, can be an emphasis in a statement. His case wasn't one of those, though. Certain words are no-nos, like the F word, and censoring one letter from that is a mockery of censorship, since it's still obvious what word that is. Having swearwords suddenly pop out in the middle of a friendly discussion for no discernable reason is also rude, as is the tone of the post being antagonistic when it actually isn't or shouldn't be. This was the conversation that was the subject of the ban:

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I agree with you Wolt, and in hindsight I probably should have tilted the 'chariot' structure backwards; it would have added an extra sense of movement too.

Ah well, too late now ;)


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HAH! Theres where you so incredible *swearing cut* WRONG


The guy was just talking about his conversion, was the tone of that reply at all warranted?
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Okay, i'm gonna have to keep this quick (going out soon)

Anyway my views: personally i beleive that yet again the council are in the right, that Wolt's behaviour could, and still can be easily avioded, if he has made it to the 4th ban, then we know, unless he changes hi ways know then he will get the perma ban.

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Why must these people try to place the blame for their bans/suspensions on the Co13? You read the rules and yes they do apply to everyone. You got your warnings and requests to settle down. If you got banned or suspended you really haven't got anyone to blame but yourself. Whats the need for the profanity anyway? The only thing it does is show the rest of the community your total lack of maturity and class. Leaving one letter of a swear blank is hardly censorship.


Now this statement, is basicaly striaght to the point.
If you get a warning, its for a reason, you'll probaly know why, youll have the perfect chance to realise were you slipped up and went wrong, repeated warnings just show you lack of ability to change your ways.

Personally i love the way the council works here, this is one of the only places were i feel that the rules ARE enforced, and not too harshly, and not too lightly, but enough to split apart the peopel who slip up, and the people who deserve it.

Anywho, i'd like to say more, but my friends at the door byes
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Back to the subject of censoring, would it have been better if he had said it phonetically, like effing? Or would that still be considered profanity?
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Jun 16 2007, 07:45 AM
Back to the subject of censoring, would it have been better if he had said it phonetically, like effing? Or would that still be considered profanity?

why do you need to say it in the first place though?


now i cant say im on the best terms with some/most of the mods for some reason or another they know who they are

but like it or not rule will and must be enforced and the mods do a good job of it yes sometimes i dont agree with it i.e. some occasional issues involving bas and other such times ive seen it happen but at that point i CONFRONT the mods about it not go around pulling these sorts of stunts if only to hear the other side of the story then i base my judgements,

as far as im concerned resorting to profanity in any form is in the same domain as smoking or drinking they say they cant help it but you can you just choose not to
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Jun 16 2007, 07:45 AM
Back to the subject of censoring, would it have been better if he had said it phonetically, like effing? Or would that still be considered profanity?

No. Just use another word. I use "damn" a lot personally. I don't think anyone really dislikes that. One might even want to expand vocabulary with words like "impressive", "unwanted", "incredible", etc. depending on the situation.
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