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| Tweet Topic Started: 13th June 2007 - 07:34 PM (912 Views) | |||
| Mebob | 13th June 2007 - 07:34 PM Post #1 | ||
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Okay, well, yet agian i bring you a poll on a random topic.... # Anyway, i'm jsut wondered, what does the people of the underempire beleive about ghosts? Are we all hardcore beleivers, ahve we/believe we have seen ghosts, do we hav eopen minds, or do you not belive in that "Crap" Debate away! ![]() Mutate: okay, personally i feel that they do exist, i've got the majority of my beliefs about things like this from my mother, (my dad doesnt belive in this crap) and also my fascination as a child lead me to reading deeply into subjects like this. Now some ideas ive come up with are that, once your are dead something simmular to or "Death" (the grim reaper) comes down to guide you to the afterlife, but can't force you, now some people would not want to leave, or not bleive they are dead, so would choose to stay, so therefore are trapped here. Or that spirits are jsut the imprints, or memories manifest of the once living Or they are jsut anomalies, if you look at everything there are annomalies, every sceince experiement, every theory, tehres atleast one anomaly/mistake somewere along the line, so what if ghosts are jsut anomolies. Or another idea, that fits into a compeltely differeent topic, that everything is jsut "recycled" even our spirits/souls or whatever. One thing i don't believe howeever is that everyone whos died become ghosts, overwise we would ahve an overpopulation of ghosts everywhere. |
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| Bodacious | 13th June 2007 - 07:50 PM Post #2 | ||
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I'm with: "They might, there's no way of not knowing." Until someone can scientifically prove that there are indeed forces out there that can affect someone's perception in that way, I'm not getting my hopes up. That doesn't mean that I don't listen to the stories though .Cheers, Bodacious. |
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| Frankensqueek | 13th June 2007 - 08:10 PM Post #3 | ||
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I don't really have a view, and I believe that maybe there could be something. But I just cannot take these supernatural tv programmes (like Most Haunted) seriously. James |
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| Morkskittar | 13th June 2007 - 08:15 PM Post #4 | ||
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I believe in TPIS.... what about you? ![]() Pillz |
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| General Vorg | 13th June 2007 - 08:18 PM Post #5 | ||
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there might be ghosts, though i doubt it. The only reason i didnt voted 'i dont beleive' is because im afraid they will eat me in my sleep squeeks |
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| Warwolt the disturbed assassin | 13th June 2007 - 08:22 PM Post #6 | ||
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I really don't think theres ghosts nor afterlife. Afterlife is just an idea Man have come up with because they can't accept you might just well... Die. | ||
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| Gratwhol of Hell Pit | 13th June 2007 - 08:27 PM Post #7 | ||
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I don't really believe in ghosts. But, a neighbour of mine recorded a little video in our barn. Actually it was his daughter who was recording, and after the shot was made, you could see a child on his shoulder, who was turning it's head. Now that was freaky! In addition to that a lady killed herself by hanging in that very barn 50 years ago. And, I don't like to admit it, but that slighty altered my view on this subject. I don't really like to spend time in that barn anymore, at all! But ghosts could be a glimpse of something happening in a parallell dimension... or something <<Gratwhol>> |
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| Stinkhair | 13th June 2007 - 08:37 PM Post #8 | ||
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Eh. A human is just another sack of meat, filled with various complex ongoing reactions. Once those reactions stop, that's it. Game over. A little decomposer/detrivore action later, and that's that sorted. I just think that humans cannot conceive the possibility of their intelligences ceasing existance, so we invent something to happen after we've 'used up' our little meaty selves. Afterlives, heavens, soul-recyling and ghosts.... I don't believe any of it.
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| Chieftain Cazgar | 13th June 2007 - 09:00 PM Post #9 | ||
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with a name like Casper, i kinda have to believe seriously though, i believe in ghosts and afterlifes, heaven and hell. i agree that you get some TV shows that are just exploitation, but that's the case with all things. my thoughts on the matter are that if you lead a good life, you go to heaven. if you are a wicked person, you go to hell. and if you feel that it's not your time to go yet, after dieing, then you stick around as a ghost. my mom goes to seances and stuff, and believes that dead rellies contact her through things, like this lion that sings the England song, even when it's turned off, without warning. which my mom usually takes to mean that her cousin isn't happy, and upon phoning her always find her assumption, on account of the lion, correct lol. i'm pretty open minded, so i do believe that there are ghosts in one form or another. i'd always been interested as a kid and read encyclopaedias on sightings and stuff, and so when my uncle told me i was going to hell because i wasn't baptised it caused me to look into the whole after life thing. i figure if i'm wrong, and when i die i'm just dead then i don't lose anything. where as if i try to be a good person (which isn't that bad an idea in the first place lol) and there is something after the last stop, then i win lol. |
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| Skaskrit Venomclaw | 13th June 2007 - 10:00 PM Post #10 | ||
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An open mind is like a fortress with its gates unbarred and unguarded. ![]() Seriously, it's like stinkhair said. Humans are beings of flesh and bones and gristle and various unpleasant liquids. There's nothing to form a ghost. There's no way a ghost could exist, physically. There's no evidence for ghosts. (apart from dubious anecdotes) So it's sensible to assume ghosts do not exist. Keeping an "open mind" is accepting new evidence as it comes along and adapting your views as needed rather than try to hold on to your old beliefs cost what may. It's not accepting every half-baked horror story told by friends, or believing the mumbo-jumbo of every self-proclaimed paranormal something or other. |
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| SingTheScreams | 13th June 2007 - 11:28 PM Post #11 | ||
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hey mebob, nice colour choice taking after the coolest guy around here, are you? jks alli figure theres no such thing as, well, anything after death, but then again anything is possible so i took C |
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| scrivener | 14th June 2007 - 12:29 AM Post #12 | ||
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The inability to prove something does not mean it doesn't exist. Science was once unable to comprehend that we are made of atoms, but they were still around. Likewise there may be something to ghosts and souls that our level of science is not advanced enough to comprehend. Dismissing something as not existing because we have no ways of understanding it is like saying an object does not have a length because our ruler is too short to measure it. Keeping an open mind is also not being locked onto an opinion as a fact until we have evidence that can prove it. Just as trivia, there was a theory, sometime in the 50s or 60s IIRC, that offered an alternative to ghosts. It was based on the concept that living things produce a sort of energy field, and that at time this energy field can be magnified by certain factors like high emotions, or stress. Likewise there is a similar ambient energy field in the general landscape that may have higher frequencies in certain locations, and that a heightened energy field from a living thing can leak into this ambient field and leave an imprint. The imprint itself is not visible, but can in turn leak into another living thing's personal field as a signature frequency, if the conditions are right. The effect is not sensory, but something you could say similar to the Wit (to steal from the Farseers). There is an anecdote from London in the 70s (heard by my parents when they were living there, completely unrelated to the theory I just mentioned), of a house where the residents would see an apparition of the former occupants, pelting up and down the stairs. The tale was that the former occupants, a couple, had a child who once was seriously ill and seemed to be dying, and the scene they saw was of a period from this time. The catch was, the whole family was still alive and living elsewhere. That theory belongs to the era of Kirlian photography and dowsing for leylines, so it's not scientific, but it does offer a suggestion on what those visions of ghosts might actually be. |
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| DjtHeutii | 14th June 2007 - 12:41 AM Post #13 | ||
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I don't currently accept the real, factual existence of such things as "Ghosts" at all. It would take some pretty impressive evidence to convince me such things existed.
It does not mean that it does either, though. To accept the reality of a thing there must be sufficient evidence provided to support the actual existence of such a thing. Otherwise we are apt to believe any fool thing that comes down the pike. Merged your two posts. There's a Mutate button so you can edit your old post if you had something extra to add. No need to have two posts from the same user side by side, even if you felt my quote deserved a post all on its own... :rolleyes: Heh, it's cool. I just forgot to . This is the only forum I hang out at that has this as a requirement and it takes getting used to. |
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| "The reasoning man who scorns the prejudices of simpletons necessarily becomes the enemy of simpletons; he must expect as much, and laugh at the inevitable." - Marquis de Sade | |||
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| Sammy the Squid | 14th June 2007 - 01:25 AM Post #14 | ||
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I dont really believe, but I am open minded, so I can accept the possibility of them existing (though no idea HOW they exist...) Some trustworthy people swear that they've seen them, but who knows, it could just be figments of their imaginations or something... For me the idea is just a bit too far fetched... - Sammy |
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| Garithorn | 14th June 2007 - 02:44 AM Post #15 | ||
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i belive in ghosts... i have seen 2 and have heard more so i think my house is haunted. Sometimes its very hard to go to sleep. | ||
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