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Jun 13 2007, 03:45 PM
[size0]Double-posts are generally frowned upon. Fixed this one for you, please try to avoid doing it again. ;)

Oh, and this is now a thread for ALL sports, so feel free to talk about any sport.. ;)

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If I didn't like my head the way round it is now, I'd say martial arts is for girls.

HOWEVER, like a lot of other sports (football being the only real exception for me) it's great fun to do, but horrible to play. I'm a football fanatic because I enjoy playing AND watching, wheras sports like cricket I enjoy playing but can't sit down and watch and be enthralled. Relaxed, yes. Engrossed, possibly. Watching in the background whilst doing somethign else, certainly. Even when it was on terestrial, i could never will myself to sit down and watch it for a concentrated period of time. The only time I would have done so was the last test of the ashes 05 (and I was at school! <_< ).

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If I didn't like my head the way round it is now, I'd say martial arts is for girls.

Howso?

Surely football would be a girlier sport? No contact? No real need for upper-body strength? (and loads of pansying about :P )

Martial arts are a fairly unisex thing, really. There's a woman at my class who could (and tends to) kick the crap out of me, while another girl is one of the most offensive-oriented people there.

Football, I find, is dull to watch. But really, most sports are. Sports are made to be played, not observed. The thing with cricket is that is keeps going steadily, not stop-start like football tends to be (20 mins faddling around in the centre, then a 2-minute attack on a goal, which may or may not score, and then you've got to watch another 20 mins faddling...). But, to quote Mutator, I believe;

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We used sharp breathing out to contract the stomach muscles, which helps twist your trunk into a technique.

Aye. Same deal. A shout (well, a good hard ki-hap (as I have discovered it should be spelt)) is basically a short sharp exhalation with a bit of sound. Also, it's a good way of preventing yourself being winded. Catch a strike to the chest/ribs, or hit the ground hard with a lungful of air, and you're winded as the air is knocked out. Ki-hap as the enemy strikes, or before you hit the ground, and you'll minimise that risk.

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oh sorry we're talking bout martial arts. I do shotokan karate. its like a stricter form of karate than the other types. we dont use stomach muscle contraction but hip action to generate power.

So does soo bahk (and quite a few other matial arts), but it's combined with the breathing/yell.



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Stink football is hardly stop start compared to the majority of sports. Stop start can not be 20 minutes long mate and that faddling about is called passing and tackling, its most of the game. *Grins* You ever watch American Football? Thats stop start. As you said about cricket one guy doing the same thing in the same spot for over 6 hours? Thats well too repetitive and could do with a bit more stop start.

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Stinky, you should watch an ice hockey match. That's pretty much end to end shooting on goal. The puck spends most of the time being shot at goal, and rarely stands around in the middle of the rink.


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Jun 13 2007, 03:27 PM
So does soo bahk (and quite a few other matial arts), but it's combined with the breathing/yell.




thats the problem with martial arts classes. my sister does ju-jitsu, my dad does White Crane kung-fu (some corean kung-fu) and i do karate and they teach the same thing. power from the center of gravity. the only difference is karate is taught as more of a contact and more fight-relevant ( although my opinion is most likely biased).
They need to teach how they do in the country of origin or at least how they do on the courses you can go to ( those three sports maybe not for others).
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Stink football is hardly stop start compared to the majority of sports. Stop start can not be 20 minutes long mate and that faddling about is called passing and tackling, its most of the game. *Grins* You ever watch American Football? Thats stop start. As you said about cricket one guy doing the same thing in the same spot for over 6 hours? Thats well too repetitive and could do with a bit more stop start.

As I said, no sports are actually enthralling to watch, IMO. But cricket is better to have going in the background. Football might be okay to have going on in the background if the commentators would just calm down. But they go nutso, completely librarian-poo, whenever anyone gets within 1/4 of the pitch of the goal. It's annoying. And while the passing and tackling are the main part of football games, they're still not interesting/exciting enough to deserve my full attention. *shrugs* But few parts of few sports are.

But, each to their own. :P This is just my opinion, after all

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thats the problem with martial arts classes. my sister does ju-jitsu, my dad does White Crane kung-fu (some corean kung-fu) and i do karate and they teach the same thing. power from the center of gravity. the only difference is karate is taught as more of a contact and more fight-relevant ( although my opinion is most likely biased).
They need to teach how they do in the country of origin or at least how they do on the courses you can go to ( those three sports maybe not for others).

Yes, most martial arts are built on the same principles, but that's because they have the same aim; Focus and control of power into powerful techniques to disable an opponent.

There are differences in preferred fighting styles, though. Soo bahk is a mostly kicking art, and most of the practitioners I know would preferentially fight from a longer range, where they can use powerful kicks to strike at any part of the body. Karate, from what I hear, is more hand-based, and, although both arts teach kicks and punches, the main focus varies between the two, even though the foundation is the same.

Then there are arts like judo and akido that focus on throwing, which, though it is still using power from the hip, is a wholly different game. And then there are pure groundwork arts, which I believe tend to be newer. What root they use, I am unsure of...?

It may be the same source of power, but the use it is put to is varied between arts....[/color]
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Nope. I have mentioned this before a few times in the forum but I see your yellow text quite rarely when browsing topic. It is only when you go to post and can look back that I actually see it as yellow.

When a good game of football comes along it gets very watchable. Finding that exceptional game through the masses matches can be hard though. Football Commentators are not always bad and cricket commentators do not get excited because they have to sit there for hours on a hot day and I have heard them talking about any old thing and the camera zooming on anything remotely funny the heavily perspirating crowd is doing such as stacking plastic cups on a sleeping mans head. *Grins*

Oh and if you want continuous fast pace action and excitement I agree with Franky, Ice hockey is the way to go.


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I think we'll have to agree to disagree as far as footie is concerned. I find that it certainly helps to have an emotional investment in a team (For me, Highbury was such a fantastic experience. Even when we were loosing the noise was outstanding) and the huge high you get when your team scores is undescribable.

Also, No Contat is something that happens ona distant planet in the murky world of the Ryman Leagues :) . To be honest, the Premiership isn't as bad as people make out, but then the game isn't about who can knock people over better (Unless you live in Bolton). Unless you get a very bad game and a poor referee, football is rarely stop-start. Slow? Possibly, especially when Northern teams outside of Manchester are concerned. Maybe I'm lucky, being awestruck by the Arsenal every week is a luxury many don't have (and I now only get every few weeks and on MotD tbh, now that it's impossible to get tickets :angry: )

By the way, if you think football is no contact, this should correct you :)

If you want the beautiful side of the game, just search Arsenal vs Man United. Always great games ("1-nil down, 2-1 up, we f*cked Fergie's record up!")
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By the way, if you think football is no contact, this should correct you  :)

But that's not football. That's a bunch of people with the IQ of cabbages having a fight.

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I think we'll have to agree to disagree as far as footie is concerned. I find that it certainly helps to have an emotional investment in a team (For me, Highbury was such a fantastic experience. Even when we were loosing the noise was outstanding) and the huge high you get when your team scores is undescribable.

I think we will have to agree to disagree. :P

I just don't watch a sport/game with that much involvement. All that has happened is that a guy has whomped a ball into a net, past another guy... Unless you're thoroughly immersed in the game, and really REALLY hope that a specific bunch of guys win, it's not that exciting.

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Even when we were loosing the noise was outstanding) and the huge high you get when your team scores is undescribable.

Go to a metal gig. Noise so outstanding you have to repressurise your ears between songs, and the high you get when you hear first few bars of a thoroughly incredible song you've always loved being played, the huge high you get is indescribable.. :D

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All that has happened is that a guy has whomped a ball into a net, past another guy... Unless you're thoroughly immersed in the game, and really REALLY hope that a specific bunch of guys win, it's not that exciting.

Many people, including the angel, bound in chains by the demons on both my shoulders, have tried that argument, and are always followed with the response: "Yeah, but it's FOOTBALL". If you don't get it then that will make no sense. It makes no sense even to those who DO get it, but at least we UNDERSTAND :) . Anyway, I don't like contact sports for that very reason: I just don't get them.

All that has happened is that a guy has whomped some other guy. Your argument will undoubtably be cunning and clever, as mine for football could be, but in the end it will boil down to "Yeah, but it's [insert sport here]".

On a completely unrelated sporting topic, the phrase "Different strokes for different folks" was apparently used with rather alarming affects by the Oxford race team this year.
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Whoever thinks futbol (going to use the German spelling to avoid confusiong between USA football and the rest of the world football :P) ... anyways, whoever thinks futbol doesn't involve a lot of contact has never played outside of "friendly games". I've played since I was four years old, was on a travel team from the time I was eight years old, and refereed since I was 12 (that's some GOOD money at 12 ... $15 bucks an hour minimum). The worst injury I've seen in a soccer game was two guys going for a 50-50 ball and colliding so hard that one's teeth went into the other's skull a bit ... yeah, but quite a big gross and a bit haunting to observe ... you don't get that in these other sports where you have helmets and such protecting you. THe only protection futbol players have is shin guards and anyone whose played competitively will tell you those really don't do much against a real player because they can kick soooooo hard (it's all in the quadriceps). Also, I think those who think futbol isn't much of a contact sport obviously doesn't watch the final rounds of the world cup when people are going full tilt into each other for 50-50 balls, headers, etc.
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Whoever thinks futbol (going to use the German spelling to avoid confusiong between USA football and the rest of the world football  :P) [...]

The correct spelling would be Fußball and not Futbol.

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One of their World Cup jerseys from the 1990s (can't remember which season) uses the "futbol" spelling on the emblem on the chest.
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Also, I think those who think futbol isn't much of a contact sport obviously doesn't watch the final rounds of the world cup when people are going full tilt into each other for 50-50 balls, headers, etc.

As in, heading someone elses chest? Certainly happens in finals :P

And the Vinz is right, I've just done my GCSE german (so naaaa *sticks tounge out*) and it's deffinatly spelt with a shafesess (the funny B thing) and is pronounced Foooshbal. :)
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Whoever thinks futbol (going to use the German spelling to avoid confusiong between USA football and the rest of the world football ) ... anyways, whoever thinks futbol doesn't involve a lot of contact has never played outside of "friendly games". I've played since I was four years old, was on a travel team from the time I was eight years old, and refereed since I was 12 (that's some GOOD money at 12 ... $15 bucks an hour minimum). The worst injury I've seen in a soccer game was two guys going for a 50-50 ball and colliding so hard that one's teeth went into the other's skull a bit ... yeah, but quite a big gross and a bit haunting to observe ... you don't get that in these other sports where you have helmets and such protecting you. THe only protection futbol players have is shin guards and anyone whose played competitively will tell you those really don't do much against a real player because they can kick soooooo hard (it's all in the quadriceps). Also, I think those who think futbol isn't much of a contact sport obviously doesn't watch the final rounds of the world cup when people are going full tilt into each other for 50-50 balls, headers, etc.

But those are freak occurrances, not a staple of the game, like bone-crunching tackles are in rugby, where lots of bits of lots of people are regularly broken (and there's no padding, unlike american football. Just gumshields, I think...)[/color]
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Aye, I agree Rugby is about as much contact as you're going to get without pads. Doesn't make futbol (I believe Brazil may use this spelling too? :P ) any less of a contact sport. Just take a few kicks to the leg/foot and you'll know what I mean, and that's not even the truly aggressive stuff. I came out of playing with stress fractures in both my shins (now I know when it's going to rain) and a little pain in my knee from when it bent sideways (yeah, only suppose to bend forward/backward apparently, lol) from when I slid to get the ball out of bounds to prevent a 1v1 with our goalkeeper and 2 seconds later the bastard forward just comes in and cranks me in the leg causing the sideways bend ... luckily I believe pain is merely weakness leaving the body :P
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