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| Aderashi | 9th February 2007 - 01:19 PM Post #1 |
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I REALLY hate chaos. A lot of guy's I know play chaos and the problem is... THERE IS TO MANY CHAOS ARMY's near me -.- in evry tournament I play I play 2/5 of all matches vs chaos. and the thing is. They are so freaking versetile with all the gods they have and the troops are just so freaking strong. I REALLY hate Chaos corn... Frenzy anyone?. Now I was wondereing if you have the same problem (to many people playing chaos that is) and if what to do against chaos. I tried to take em in the flanks but still lost the combat -.- The only thing that worked was luring and shooting the crap ou of them.
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| Chieftain Cazgar | 9th February 2007 - 01:33 PM Post #2 |
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baiting with dirt cheap troops anyone? we move faster than they do. send your night runners to prance around the khorne worshippers and then watch as those heavily armoured warriors spin around in circles. against chaos i wouldn't suggest a seer, just engineers and a warlord. warlord for Ld, engineers for just dishing out pure damage. with so few men he won't want to let your 4 sets of warplightning (3 engineers and the storm daemon) pick apart his tiny units. against chaos knights i shot a rattling gun at them. they were chosen aswell. we were both novices back then, but it was a masacre to me .basicly his knights moved right up, i released the rattling gun on them. 1 remained. thats right 4 dead. then he charged into my fully ranked unit of monks. chosen knights, what chosen knights? PCBs then jumped into his warriors (around 24 of them!) and smashed them up a gooden, lost combat, drew him further into my DZ where i then flanked with clan rats. after being softened up by the PCBs he was in no state to win that combat and promptly fled only to be run down. and meanwhile my rat swarms had charged his marauders on turn 2, poisen had broken straight through them and then i'd over ran. that was a unit of 20 marauders gone aswell then. in the end all he had was his boss of chaos stood in the far corner, he hadn't come forward because he was scared. the pair of us didn't have any magic, bar the rattler (which probably earnt its points back 10 fold) it was a straight up combat fest. so, what do my ramblings mean? shoot his knights with rattlers. your range is further than he can charge meaning you are much more likely do some damage. getting around 12 shots should be enough to serverely hamper the unit, even if they do have a good save. if you can shoot him with jezzails aswell. chaos knights will rip through your unit if tooled up properly and at full strength. thus it is your job to make them so weak that when they reach your unit they can't cause enough damage to negate your combat res. then it's just a job of waiting for him to run away so you can run him down. warriors are a little tougher, but the old can opener technique, even if unsupported will help see them off a little sooner. PCBs or rat ogres will mince them up, and if they lose no matter. PCBs are better due to their armour penetrating abilities. good luck against chaos, just shoot knights and weaken warriors. marauders are a push over, and daemons suffer from instability. capitalise on his weakness (low numbers, lack of shooting) and make him cry about it. laugh if a unit of yours dies as he whimpers that another warrior fell to a clan rat blade. |
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| Mormeguil | 9th February 2007 - 06:07 PM Post #3 |
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baby nurgle
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Mortal chaos seems particularly vulneralbe to skaven. Yuu can use ratling gun whitout too many fear of being blown to bits. Static combat resolution is hard to achieve with chaos they mostly have attack power. This also give an edge to skaven since it's hard to take down a 5 resolution of combat with only your strenght of attack. THey're low nomber also push the horde factor of skaven, they are easy to outnumber. Best of chaos are another story because of they're incredible movement and relativly hight numbers. Agaisnt them you will need a lot of strategy and play close attention to your movement, but agin you'r ratling gun are of great help since beast of chaos have no shooting. |
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| discostu3 | 9th February 2007 - 06:50 PM Post #4 |
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Time to bring out the heavies: i.e. - Tooled up Plague Priest with plenty of PM's and PCB's (our frenzy is better then yours )- Rat Ogres - Stormies with warlord and BSB with plenty of PWG's and you will still have plenty of points to outnumber him 2/3 to 1 ![]() Oh and i love their fenzy as we have so many units to bait them with (haha nice expensive unit/chariot stuck in the woods )
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| So I'm attacking your slaves with 5 chosen knights **throws dices** and horses **throws more dices** ok you are at -9 to Ld there is no way ...** a dice throw** .... F@@k ! | |
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| garthvader | 9th February 2007 - 07:08 PM Post #5 |
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Can You Dig It?
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ever heard of spacemarines? :lol: nah but ive never played against chaos and ive heard the knights are nasty but what i would do is put a unit of nightrunners beside s big unit of plaguemonks and a detachment of cencer bearers then bait him into charging the fast moving knights and then flee with them so you can get in with your cencer bearers youl probably kill 2 with the toughness test alone. but hey ive nver played against chaos (only beastmen) so i dont really know |
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| chieftainskritchskritch | 10th February 2007 - 01:47 AM Post #6 |
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Ugh, dont REMIND me. I cant go to any gaming club without hearing weedy cries of "for the emperor". Funny, my main tournament opponent is undead. But oh well, thats variety for you. As for your chaos problem, just shoot em. They've pretty much got nothing to threaten your rattling guns, so blast away. I cant believe im saying this, but maybe take some Rat Ogres? They shouldnt get shot up, and against chaos warriors they're pretty good (just make sure you dont go anywhere near khorne lords with them.....self explanatory). |
| You kids these days have it so easy, what with your Plague Furnaces and your Hellpit Abominations and your Bonebreaker Warlords. Back in MY day, all we had was Slaves and Clanrats!...and auto-hit Ratling Guns...and skirmishing Jezzails...and 2D6 Warp Lightning...and Lead From The Back...wait, what was my arguement again? | |
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| klintskog | 10th February 2007 - 08:54 AM Post #7 |
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Clanrat
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I understand your frustration, chaos armies have the potential of being fairly hard to beat. No matter how they are composed, they always have an unmatched (for a skaven player) killing potential. Add to that their +2 and +3 saves, and you can forget about killing any of a chaos players models. However, they lack in numbers, static CR , and mobility (except for their flying demons, knights and the mauroder horsemen). Still as already being said we have the CR, that is what you have to relay on. My main opponent fields a chaos mortal army, with some elements of demons (screamers) and some beastmen as skirmishers. I must admit that I'm scared stiff every time we meat, but it often turns out to my favor, not because I kill his troops, but because of numbers, CR and flank charges. For the knights, don't try to kill them, try to isolate them, try to keep them out of action, thats my only advice. |
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