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wanting to start a slaanesh army
Topic Started: 5th February 2007 - 04:37 PM (312 Views)
Chieftain Cazgar
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well, i feel like having an uber 1337 army, so i figured chaos would be the best way to go (elves are pansys, and dwarfs are too slow, and OK are taken)

i dont want the army to be super competative or anything, i'd rather just have a largely converted force that will be quick to assemble. i've always liked the slaanesh fluff and models, so thats the mark i want to have.

i wanted to have a champ on a steed of slaanesh, a sorcerer or two. a couple units of 15 warriors, some deamonettes and a deamon prince (mostly due to models, not play style or stats)

i was wondering if anybody has a link to a chaos forum? or, failing that could give me some pointers on slaanesh based armys (decent army lists would be better lol, so long as they are in theme) or hordes of chaos lists in general.

thanks in advance ^_^
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Lord Lughtigern
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The Mad Ratter.

*thwacks with newspaper*

BAD CAZGAR! You've already got enough on your painting/modeling plate with Skaven and Brets without resorting to Chaos worshipping freaks!

*thwacks some more*

Okay, Chaos may seem cool now, but just you wait, you'll get bored of it! And then you'll be left with 2 boxes and some makeshift hero that you always look at but never use properly, only as proxies at best! I speak from experience here!

*tosses a warpstone brewski*

Look, what you should do is just give it a couple of weeks, and then see how you think of them. In the meantime, work on your Skaven and Brets and see if you can't rekindle the flame with them.

Only then, if you still want to, get a Exalted champ and play a few proxy games and see if it's all it's cracked up to be.

COTEC is a Chaos forum, whilst Brown's site is dedicated to Slaanesh.

Don't rush into these things! Money is hard to come by as a kid, no?
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Links you should try out:
Denizens of the Deep - Rules for Underground Campaigns
Warhammer Skirmish - The Lazy Man's Mordheim
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Chieftain Cazgar
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yes, money is hard to come by, but that situation is on the rise (i was saving my dinner money to buy warhammer before, where as now my parents give me money to go out with, food for the win ^_^ )

in truth my brets are almost completed. 2 pegasus, 2 pegasus riders, 8 barded warhorse, 8 pegasus knights. thats all, i would like to think i've got that done by the end of the month (2 pegs this weekend, then i have half term so the errants shall be done then, i based around a k of skaven in a weekend before, and that was using a cocktail stick to spread the glue <_< )

skaven are a, errr, little bit less done :rolleyes: , but i guess thats in keeping with most other skaven armys :rolleyes:

i guess i just want a really elite style army, i looked for that in brets, but i found out they have troops as cheap with ours only they are worse at fighting <_< , and they make up the bulk of my army. i will probably try and slowly creep more knights into my list, but maxed out knight armys are seen as cheese, and even if a few friends of mine are heading toward the power gamey aspects i would still rather play a balanced force.

also i always thought that chaos was a cool looking army, i figured i'd combine marauder torsos with chaos warrior legs, arms, sheilds, helms and weapons to create a more bondaged look to them (in keeping with their mark and theme ^_^ )

i also want a champ on a steed of slaanesh to lead my army, the big snake with tits one, and a unit of deamonettes, and some knights. this time nothing that costs less than a warrior with sheild and halberd.

i figured that the army could be cobbled together really quickly, and then, once that armys done i would just throttle back and paint skaven for eterntity, as punishment from the dark Gods for buying too many armys.

i usually get impulses to start armys and just don't, with brets i finally caved in because i wanted a more elite cavalry based army. what i got instead was skaven with cavalry and a stone thrower, and worse magic <_< . next time i'm taking no chances, i want to be outnumbered 5 to 1 by horde armys, atleast. i'm slightly beyond wanting to win so much now, slowly the painting/converting side has creeped into me, and having a good theme is more important than an army that will win every battle.

i won't start for a month or 2 yet, (probably a lie, i said it wouldn't start brets till near easter), i need to buy 2 packs of trees yet and a fey enchantress for my brets (maybe, debating whether i really do need a second damsel) and then i'll save for a box of maruaders and a box of warriors, i'll buy them both at the same time (need to use bits from both) so that'll stall the project for a few weeks aswell.

before this i wanted to do chaos dwarves, but i realised that this was because i wanted to use chaos bitz as the warriors look so damn cool, and i may aswell use a legal army if i want an army of them so bad lol.

so don't worry, i'm not starting them just yet, i just wanted to get a feel for the army before committing. like i said i just think the models and fluff is cool, and it goes with my elite army style lust (i was even thinking about all elf wood elves, i almost got booed off the woody forum for my distaste of forrest spirits :P )
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If you like Slaanesh, might I suggest you look into the Storm of Chaos and an all Daemon Slaanesh army? Slaanesh has some FAST fast cavalry, normal cavalry, and chariots with M10... makes getting into combat almost too easy.

On a more Skaven mindset, I hear you on the seduction to Chaos ... there is so much variety with them being able to mix mortal, daemon, and beasts as well as the SoC book, but Skaven reign supreme.:P Do you see Chaos with anything like the Screaming Bell? I think not. Chaos Knights a problem? Use jezzails, PCBs, PWGs, static CR, or magic. It's like that for everything they have, we can counter it. Try thinking of how to counter what Skaven have with what Chaos can wield ... we are the master race :P You can not counter a horde of the master race with its machine of destruction and cunning leaders

Oh yeah, I forgot to add this too: "Shun the non-believer! Shuunnnnnnn! Shuuuuunnnnnnnnnnnnnnn!"
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Mormeguil
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I know that i never start an army unless I crave for it 2 times. Skaven was my first army so it's different but anyway.

For a slannesh army with convertion and not too many model demon army is perfect.
I have a few bare metal dark elf model for sale, if interested pm me.
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I used to be schizophrenic, BUT WE'RE OKAY NOW!

"I own a Slaanesh army."

*Watch as people turn over to look at him funny*

"What? nobody's perfect!" :P

What cause me to fall was the fact that I was getting SO tired of clanrats...
Yeah, 9 parts a clanrat if you count the base... times 120... Equal to many parts... To many models to paint...I like to PLAY skaven, not to collect them... <_<

Chaos was the opposite... Few models, few parts to each models...
With the new warrior, it's even worst, although they can't really be dynamically posed... But after 60 dynamic-looking clanrats, you get tired of it anyway...

Back on topic...

With a slaanesh themed army, you'll ask yourself the eternal chaos question:
"What shall it be, Mortal, Beast or Deamons?"
Think about that first, that'll help you reduce the cost for that new army...
My advise, don't start with deamons unless you already own some (like if you're already a 40k chaos player). From your first post, you're looking for a mortal look. For a "hardcore/elite" army, don't look any farther...
Immunity from psychology to your main infantry block; FAST, fear causing, light cavalry; "cheap" and effective, good looking daemons; and perhaps some of the most wicked magus around... It reaks of elitism... And finally, despite what was said before, it's fun to play... Sure, you don't get the laugh of seeing your warpfire thrower blow up and take your whole left flank with him on turn 2... But they're fun to play in the fact that you can rely on those model to stand still... Alternating between the 2 armies is what keeps me from going totally insane...

The only real thing you have to consider is yourself. Do YOU want to play a Slaanesh army? Always think about what fun you'll have:
I like to play skaven, but collecting a horde army took most of the fun from them out of me, So I play with plastics... Doesn't look as good as I'd like, but maybe, one day...
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Mormeguil
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I know i have been using beast of chaos, but they are hard to really make slanneshy. You would need a lot of convertion because there still are a lot of model ( I have close to 100) and not too many marks you can give.

So if you really want to them an army around a God i dont suggest them. But they are challenging to play nothing can really deal with anything alone, you have low leadership and low armour but not that much number to soak it all up.

Finally, some model are old and metal is costly.
I have a few bare metal dark elf model for sale, if interested pm me.
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Chieftain Cazgar
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i wanted a mortal army with a unit of daemons, maybe a daemon prince to liven things up a little bit, but still have it lead by a mortal. i just can't see beasts worshipping slaanesh. khorne and nurgle yes, and even tzintch(SP?) seeing as they are changed themselves, but slaanesh just doesn't seem right on a beastigor.

from your posts it seems this way, but i was wondering, can i use mounted deamonettes in a normal hordes of chaos mortal lead army? 'cause the models and rules sound pretty cool, and if i can then i'll get some.

i have the same sort of problem with my skaven paint wise, with my brets i found it easier to get them finished paint wise because each model i painted mattered, there's only around 80 of them in my army, so i felt like i'd acomplished something each time one was knocked off the list. with skaven i found that i couldn't get motivated enough to paint them due to oh, i painted a rank of clan rats, not that it matters :unsure:

with chaos it should be even easier, 15ish pts a man means i'll have very little in the way of painting to do. also, here's a list i was thinking of, probably not perfect, or good, but i wanted to post it anyway:

exalted champ with MoS, steed of slaanesh, halberd and sheild
lvl 2 sorc with mark of slaanesh and so lore of slaanesh

15 warriors with FC, halberds and sheilds
same again if i can fit it in
5ish knights of chaos (again if i can fit in)

10ish deamonettes

i know chaos dudes are pretty hefty pointwise, and i'm unsure on the knights, after all, they have a good save, but there are things that either ignore saves or make mockerys of them. with brets its ok because i have around 10 in a unit so should one drop its ok, with chaos knights it seems a bit more of a risk, so i'll probably proxy with brets before committing to them.

deamonettes i think look cool, i'm not sure on stats or point cost, i figured they'd have high WS and S but low toughness and no armour for around 15ish points again?

please tell me if i've gone way over board with numbers and stuff, i'm unsure on upgrade costs or basic points cost.

also, i have wanted this army before, i wanted it before i wanted brets but decided against it at the time because i was dismissing all other ideas aswell, i like skaven and that is all i told myself, and then a few weeks later i bought some bretonians lol.

i also thought beasts were too similar to skaven, as in the paint scheme wise mostly but also they don't fit my elite criteria unless i go monster heavy, which i don't want to do. i don't want to use a SoC list because i'm not sure how long it'll be before it's made redundant, so, just a normal HoC list for me, i'll probably start the army next month. by which time i'll have bought a 2nd damsel (going to buy the female DoW mage, because it's cheaper and i don't want to buy the same damsel set again) and a sufficient amount of terrain to use in my campaign.

thanks for the help
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I think before you buy any of the models that you should get the book(s) (yes, there are 3 Chaos Books ... Beasts, Chaos, and SoC ... 4 if you count Lustria's De/Chaos army) This will give you a better idea for point costs, modeling, painting, fluff, etc. Then, even if you decide to not do chaos, you'll know another army better than you did before.
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Chieftain Cazgar
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i have the chaos books (beasts and hordes) on my comp, so i'm checkin those out tonight (cept i have damned coursework)

with them i will be able to make a propper army list, but a mix of daemons and mortals is what i want. i've also checked out how to paint slaanesh warriors, or armour for that matter. i don't know how to do daemons yet, but i've only got the book last night.

thanks for the aid, i also found out MTD daemonettes rules last night too, and i think i'll include some as back up for my boss on a snake

my basic plan is: fast stuff over and behind their lines. frenzy any missile troops (thinking skinks, archers, hand gunners) and then let them run into my warriors. mean while my fast stuff dances around behind the enemy, generally killing war machines and scaring their troops. combat troops get frontalled by my warriors and up the rear by the fast stuff.

for this i'm thinkin:

boss on snake with fighty stuff
daemon prince with fighty stuff
1 or 2 lvl 2 slaanesh sorcerers

2 x 15 warriors with halberds, sheilds and FC
10 daemonettes
5 MTD daemonettes

knights if they'll fit
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